Ron Paul - Disagreements:

[Travis Retriever]

Immigration. Any peaceful person should be able to cross borders freely and openly.

What's Dr. Paul's position on immigration?

Also, where do you stand on amnesty?

[MrBogosity]

Amnesty is the wrong solution to the wrong problem. The problem isn't the people coming here legally or illegally, it's the bureaucratic rigmarole they have to go through to do it.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

When did I say I was against extradition and deportation?

Never, that came out wrong...

To put it in a better way.  Any peaceful person should be able to come.  I guess the better question is "How do you tell which is which?"

[Travis Retriever]

Shane:  A criminal and medical screening should be enough.

I can't remember what video he said this in, however.

[MrBogosity]

I agree: medical and criminal screening. That should be all that's required.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Ick, I hate to play with necromancy but this just keeps coming up and I'm trying to make sense of it.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul197.html

This gets brought up constantly as proof that Ron Paul is in favor of banning gay marriage.  I try to say that's guilt by association at best but I'm shot down and the bit about it being constitutional for states to ban gay marriage sounds odd to me.

Can anyone set the record straight on this?

[MrBogosity]

Yes. When John Stossel asked him directly if gays should be allowed to marry, his response was an unequivocal "Sure!"

Ron Paul is talking about Federalism and the separation of powers. Liberals just don't seem to understand that concept.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

That's the funny thing.  He tells me he's republican but he so often strikes me as liberal much of the time.  Calls me a heartless monster because I said sweat shops in third world countries can only do good as long as nobody's forced at gun point to work them.  Didn't like it when I said that he's supporting policy that gives them fewer jobs and fewer choices.

[Travis Retriever]

That's the funny thing.  He tells me he's republican but he so often strikes me as liberal much of the time.  Calls me a heartless monster because I said sweat shops in third world countries can only do good as long as nobody's forced at gun point to work them.  Didn't like it when I said that he's supporting policy that gives them fewer jobs and fewer choices.

So in other words, he's a woo.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

A what now?

Yes. When John Stossel asked him directly if gays should be allowed to marry, his response was an unequivocal "Sure!"

"BUT THAT'S A VIDEO!  IT DOESN'T COUNT!!"  -_-

[Travis Retriever]

A what now?

"BUT THAT'S A VIDEO!  IT DOESN'T COUNT!!"  -_-

*Facepalms*
Like I said, a woo.

[MrBogosity]

A video of him stating it directly doesn't COUNT? This guy REALLY said that???

[Lord T Hawkeye]

No, it was in AIM.  But that's his excuse every time I try to show vids as evidence.  Won't look at them because they're vids and they don't count for some arbitrary reason.

He REALLY has a double dose of irrational Ron Paul hate.  One time, we were doing this exercise where you try to find what do you agree with each candidate on even if you don't support them as a whole.  He was able to do most of them but when Ron Paul comes up, just gives a straight no which is a bold faced lie and we both know it.

"Uh...he opposes gun control and so do you"

"Doesn't matter"

Where does this come from?  It's insane I tell you.

[Travis Retriever]

I think you told us about this guy before in your first post at this forum.
Wow...

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Great guy otherwise but enter politics and it's contradiction city.

Seriously, libertarian ideas seem harmless at worst to me but listening to everyone talk, you'd think we were a cult that pours acid on babies.  ><