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August 26, 2009, 05:28:26 AM Last Edit: August 26, 2009, 05:42:57 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
What do you disagree with Ron Paul in terms of policy and why?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
August 26, 2009, 06:20:22 AM #1
Immigration. Any peaceful person should be able to cross borders freely and openly.
August 26, 2009, 05:46:01 PM #2
Didn't Paul say he supported creationism being taught in schools at one of the debates? Or at least to "teach the controversy."
August 26, 2009, 06:00:56 PM #3
He said absolutely nothing of the kind at any time.
August 26, 2009, 06:42:22 PM #4
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 26, 2009, 06:00:56 PM
He said absolutely nothing of the kind at any time.

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August 26, 2009, 08:27:11 PM #5
Okay. So where in that video does he say he supports creationism being taught or at least to "teach the controversy"?
August 27, 2009, 10:27:17 AM #6
QuoteQ: Academic freedom is threatened when questioning the theory of evolution. An Iowa State astronomer was denied tenure because of his work in intelligent design in May 2007. Censoring alternative theories--dogmatic indoctrination--has replaced scientific inquiry. Will you encourage a more open approach to the presentation of scientific facts that contradict the theory of evolution?

    * HUCKABEE: Yes.
    * TANCREDO: Yes.
    * COX: Yes.
    * BROWNBACK: Yes.
    * PAUL: Yes.
    * HUNTER: Yes.
    * KEYES: Yes.
Source: [Xref Hunter] 2007 GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate Sep 17, 2007

August 27, 2009, 10:49:17 AM #7
"Encourage a more open approach to the presentation of scientific facts..." You DO realize that that's the same sort of manipulative questioning that creationists use to get real scientists to unwittingly sign petitions for them, right?

I mean I would have to answer "yes" to that!!!

You're becoming as bad as the creationists.
August 27, 2009, 08:23:32 PM #8
His position on abortion.  I mean, I can understand why he feels the way he does being an obstetrician and all but as for me, I cannot, in good conscience, tell a rape victim that it is morally wrong for her to not want to carry the baby of her attacker.  I just can't.  You also get into the issue of pregnancies that carry a serious risk to the mother.  I'd hate to see a mother put at risk or even killed because the law got in the way of the abortion she needed.

Though Shane, what didn't you like about his position on immigration?  All I've heard him say is to stop rewarding the line jumpers.  Stop giving them free welfare, amnesty, social security and so on and it won't be a problem.  In his interview with John Stossel, he has said he'd love to see people coming back and forth to the US to work.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
August 27, 2009, 09:06:06 PM #9
Yeah, the abortion issue, too.

The problem is, he says this, but I never hear him talking about removing the ridiculous immigration regulations. People come here illegally because it's easier to swim the Rio Grande than to climb Mount Bureaucracy.
August 28, 2009, 11:30:18 PM #10
The thing about open door policy on immigration is people worry about the country getting a rep as a haven for people trying to escape the law in their own country.  What should be done to alleviate that concern?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
August 28, 2009, 11:32:53 PM #11
Um, nothing. Why should it?
August 29, 2009, 08:12:51 PM #12
Just the fact that it's one of the biggest arguments against it.  Say someone comes to the US from another country and then that country's authorities call up the US and say he's wanted for a crime in his country.  Should he be sent back?
Or if someone does come to the US and does nothing but get in trouble with the law from day 1, should he be sent back too?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
August 29, 2009, 08:20:25 PM #13
@Lord T Hawkeye: 
Quote from: MrBogosity on August 26, 2009, 06:20:22 AMImmigration. Any peaceful person should be able to cross borders freely and openly.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
August 29, 2009, 08:22:45 PM #14
When did I say I was against extradition and deportation?
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