I feel helpless

[tnu]

I've been a huge fan of Star Wars for years. argey because it's pretty much the only massive universe with a single, mostly consistent and cohesive canon across al mediums. Rather then being like Marvel, DC, The Ninja Turtles, etc and having separate film, comic, book, and game canons. Now that's all beign wiped away in favor of a stupid reboot. I'm trying to rally EU fans to boycott the new materiel so we can see more of the Star Wars that we want but they insist that it won't do any good and we should just keep "takng what they give us". I just feel so helpless seeing something I love so much being destroyed and feeling powerless to stop it.

[MrBogosity]

You could just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist, like I did with the horrible US version of Life On Mars...

[tnu]

yeah thingis they probaby won'tbe producinganything fromt he Star Wars Universe that I gotinveste din ever again so it basicaly means givingup the franchise movingforward.

[Ibrahim90]

You could just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist, like I did with the horrible US version of Life On Mars...

I was going to write sth about a difference in scale, but then I realized you  were somehow able to ignore the US version of Life on Mars. Now THAT takes quite an epic effort!

[tnu]

it certainy seemslike a difference in scae. the whole Star Wars universei sprettymuch being rewritten.

[evensgrey]

yeah thingis they probaby won'tbe producinganything fromt he Star Wars Universe that I gotinveste din ever again so it basicaly means givingup the franchise movingforward.

And like I think most of us would prefer we could do for the whole prequel trilogy.  (I think I finally figured it out: Back when he had no money and no technology to apply to making Episode IV, George Lucas was forced to go through numerous rewrites in order to get something he could afford to film with the available technology. The rewrites resulted in having to have interesting characters with some actual depth and got everyone coherent motivation, etc, and V and VI were still largely based on the work he did for IV and were thus also fairly well written. When he came to make the prequels, he had all the money and tech you could want, so he put up pretty much whatever came to mind without making sure it even made sense.)

[dallen68]

And like I think most of us would prefer we could do for the whole prequel trilogy.  (I think I finally figured it out: Back when he had no money and no technology to apply to making Episode IV, George Lucas was forced to go through numerous rewrites in order to get something he could afford to film with the available technology. The rewrites resulted in having to have interesting characters with some actual depth and got everyone coherent motivation, etc, and V and VI were still largely based on the work he did for IV and were thus also fairly well written. When he came to make the prequels, he had all the money and tech you could want, so he put up pretty much whatever came to mind without making sure it even made sense.)

Also, episode IV seems to have been produced to have been originally intended to be a stand alone movie, with V and VI being produced as a direct result of the success of that movie. That situation actually occurs quite a bit in the film industry, where the intent is to make one thing, and then demand for thing causes more of thing to be made, which is why there's like 13 Friday the 13ths. Episodes I-III seem to have been produced to help explain away some of the things in episodes V & VI that don't really make sense in light of the events of episode IV.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

It could always be worse, go ask the Transformers fans what they've had to endure.

[ArtemisVale]

It could always be worse, go ask the Transformers fans what they've had to endure.

Damn straight

[dallen68]

Also, for those that read the graphic novels that pre-date episode IV, episodes I, III, and VI actually contradict the story. For example:

Darth Vader was a completely separate person from Anikan Skywalker, and had defeated the later in fighter combat.

Darth Vader was the person's name, not a title.

Princess Leia was not Luke's sister, she was... well, a princess.

Hans Solo was the established character, with Luke being just barely mentioned.

[evensgrey]

Also, for those that read the graphic novels that pre-date episode IV, episodes I, III, and VI actually contradict the story. For example:

Darth Vader was a completely separate person from Anikan Skywalker, and had defeated the later in fighter combat.

Darth Vader was the person's name, not a title.

Princess Leia was not Luke's sister, she was... well, a princess.

Hans Solo was the established character, with Luke being just barely mentioned.

That sounds a lot like a lot of the stuff in something that's been kicking around the 'net for a long time and is claimed to be an early draft of the script of IV.

[tnu]

Also, for those that read the graphic novels that pre-date episode IV, episodes I, III, and VI actually contradict the story. For example:


That sounds like a lot of  the old Marvel Star Wars materiel which came about before they started paying attention to contnuity. Also did you just say HANS Solo?  My main complaint is about all the formerly canon EU beng thrown out now.
Darth Vader was a completely separate person from Anikan Skywalker, and had defeated the later in fighter combat.

Darth Vader was the person's name, not a title.

Princess Leia was not Luke's sister, she was... well, a princess.

Hans Solo was the established character, with Luke being just barely mentioned.

[MrBogosity]

That sounds a lot like a lot of the stuff in something that's been kicking around the 'net for a long time and is claimed to be an early draft of the script of IV.

But a lot of the stuff is obvious, like Obi Wan saying that Darth Vader "betrayed and murdered" Anakin Skywalker. That's why in VI he had to retcon that it was "true from a certain point of view."

If I'd written II and III, I would have incorporated this into the story: that Anakin turning over to the Dark Side was such a scandal the Jedi covered it up, which of course goes against their credo and helps lead to their fall.

(I would also have given Anakin a MUCH better story for his fall, such as trying to reform the scandals he saw forming in the Jedi Council and ending up cynical and corrupted by it. But I guess Lucas just couldn't have his wonderful Jedi behaving any way less than perfectly--which is why the Lucas of I, III, and III was not the great writer that Lucas of IV was (hence, Greedo shooting first).)

[dallen68]

But a lot of the stuff is obvious, like Obi Wan saying that Darth Vader "betrayed and murdered" Anakin Skywalker. That's why in VI he had to retcon that it was "true from a certain point of view."

If I'd written II and III, I would have incorporated this into the story: that Anakin turning over to the Dark Side was such a scandal the Jedi covered it up, which of course goes against their credo and helps lead to their fall.

(I would also have given Anakin a MUCH better story for his fall, such as trying to reform the scandals he saw forming in the Jedi Council and ending up cynical and corrupted by it. But I guess Lucas just couldn't have his wonderful Jedi behaving any way less than perfectly--which is why the Lucas of I, III, and III was not the great writer that Lucas of IV was (hence, Greedo shooting first).)

Or/and VI could have been written in such a way that the betrayal was that Darth Vader was Luke's father, not Anakin.

[tnu]

it works. it'sn ot an outright contrediction sono probems really. To betray ones self oro nes destiny perhaps.