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Podcast for 6-6-2011

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News of the Bogus:


Biggest Bogon Emitter: World Health Organization http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pdf

Idiot Extraordinare: Sen. Rand Paul http://www.ronpaul2012podcast.com//2011/05/26/sen-rand-paul-on-sean-hannity-show-5262011/

This Week's Quote: "There is always a well-known solution to every human problem—neat, plausible, and wrong." —H.L. Mencken
June 05, 2011, 06:06:25 PM #1
I'm about to listen to this podcast.  Needless to say, I was a bit surprised to hear the bit on Youtube and then confirmed here that Rand Paul is the this week's "Idiot Extraordinaire". O_O
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
June 05, 2011, 06:45:47 PM #2
Rand Paul is a fucking dunce. I like his dad, and I hope his dad suplexes his son onto a turnbuckle post for displaying such hypocrisy and idiocy. Actually, it's kind of disheartening to see it so casually placed on Ron's site and he isn't called out for his blatantly hypocritical and anti-constitutional remarks.
June 05, 2011, 06:54:38 PM #3
Couldn't have said it better myself, Turcotte.
June 05, 2011, 07:16:35 PM #4
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 05, 2011, 06:54:38 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself, Turcotte.

I feel a proper suplex is the best way to handle such nonsense.

That reminds me. Charlotte, North Carolina is due for a nice suplex too.
June 05, 2011, 07:50:15 PM #5 Last Edit: June 05, 2011, 07:56:28 PM by surhotchaperchlorome
@D & Shane:  Fair enough.  I really don't keep up with him, or politicians in general, being an anarchist and all. :P
But what can we expect?  Being a part of the state has that effect on people.
Adam Kokesh, the guy from "Adam Versus the Man" was one of those people arrested.  And he's a war veteran.  He's also reformed from that crap (statism) and is quite anti-state.  Stefan commented on that:  [yt]x2_iu0qH0fY[/yt]
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
June 05, 2011, 07:53:32 PM #6
Pffft.  I lost all respect for the World Health Organization when I was informed by Shane that they gave false information about health in various countries.  That stuff about infant mortality for example.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
June 07, 2011, 03:04:30 AM #7
I still hold out hope for Rand Paul.  It's not like he is promoting any legislation that would allow the invasions of privacy he is talking about and I've always felt it is more important what a candidate does than what that candidate says.  To get elected you have to speak in a way that caters to the majority and being on fox news I sure he knew that he can't let it seem like he would let the terrorists have all the freedom that everybody else enjoys in our country.

I'll agree that he said some stupid things but as far as what the policies he is actually promoting (that I know of) I would still prefer him over virtually any other politician today.  But we still gotta keep an eye on these guys.
June 07, 2011, 06:43:20 AM #8
In fact, since Rand Paul does seem to understand the libertarian rhetoric he espouses, I say he and others like him should be held to a higher standard.
June 07, 2011, 07:04:48 AM #9
So I posted on the Ron Paul page that the Rand interview was on and I got this response:

QuoteSenator Paul, I believe, was just offering an alternative to the PATRIOT Act, and the TSA- (in an impromptu way). I'm absolutely certain that the Senator would not support such legislation, if it were to come to a vote tomorrow. However, there is no right to incite people to violently overthrow the government- and that was the crux of his argument- not to chill or investigate legal political speech!

It comes down to whether you think it is more just to treat every American as a suspect, as opposed to demanding more scrutiny on students from certain overseas nations.

Rand Paul stood up to the leadership of both parties and demanded debate over the 4th amendment destroying Patriot ACt! But rather than give the guy a little credit, the left has chosen to demagogue a suggestion the man made on a radio show. I only wish you leftists would be as noisy about the rights of all Americans, as opposed to civil liberties for foreign students, illegal immigrants, and their ilk. Should guests of this country not have a higher standard of security assessment than little girls and old WWII vets at the nation's airports?

I'm sick of your demagoguery, the liberties of EVERY AMERICAN are under attack constantly. For whatever reason, you people don't give a damn unless you can play racial politics with an issue.

This guy is clearly a loon and doesn't see the sheer hypocrisy that Rand showcased in this interview. This is almost as bad as Obama supporters claiming that if you don't like him, you automatically must be an evil heinous redneck Bush supporter.
June 07, 2011, 08:56:37 AM #10
Not to mention the fact that I'm hardly a leftist.
June 07, 2011, 09:07:00 AM #11
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 07, 2011, 08:56:37 AM
Not to mention the fact that I'm hardly a leftist.

Well, the straw man is strong with that one.

I find it hilarious how he tries to defend Rand's statements by claiming that he's merely giving an "alternative" to the Patriot Act. If you have an alternative that still infringes upon civil liberties, what alternative do you truly have? None.
June 07, 2011, 10:15:51 AM #12
Quote from: D.Turcotte on June 07, 2011, 09:07:00 AM
Well, the straw man is strong with that one.

I find it hilarious how he tries to defend Rand's statements by claiming that he's merely giving an "alternative" to the Patriot Act. If you have an alternative that still infringes upon civil liberties, what alternative do you truly have? None.
That's cults of personality for you.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
June 08, 2011, 10:25:26 AM #13
QuoteIf you follow Ron Paul and his son, David, then you know that their ideology is virtually identical. They just have a different way of approaching the issues. Like I said before, the Senator did stick his foot in his mouth abit in this interview, he was just trying to offer a Patriot Act alternative on-the-fly to a terror-crazed Hannity audience. I called you out as a liberal, not because you disagreed with Rand Paul, but because I think this whole leftwing (Soros-outfit) fueled "debate" is itself, a straw-man. We both know that it is illegal to invoke violence against ANYONE- calling for violence is not protected speech.

Now, I too am very concerned about government surveillance of political speech. BUT THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THAT NOW. Just google "ron paul MIAC" or "Campaign for Liberty florida fusion center". ThinkProgress and MSNBC showed no concern about that invasion of free speech. My point is, this isn't proposed legislation, or a written article. It's a paragraph spoken on a radio show that the left has decided to demagogue. And at this time, I want the government to spend MORE TIME investigating the known violence-inducing speech of foreigners than searching through everyone's bank-records, and touching everyone's genitals at the airports. Whether you're a liberal or not, that should not be an outrageous statement.

EXCUSES, EXCUSES EVERYWHERE.
June 08, 2011, 12:54:24 PM #14
"calling for violence is not protected speech."

I think I covered that pretty well in the podcast. Calling for violence IS protected. The only way the government can stop it is if the violence is not only likely, but also IMMINENT.
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