Fail Quotes

[Travis Retriever]

"free market economics has very little effect in cost to the consumer."--mrgetrealpeople on this video

@LordTHawkeye:  As Jacob Spinney explained in this video [yt]WBZCHaKmkeM[/yt]

[Travis Retriever]

Don't tell me, let me guess.  The only reason the corporations got away with what they did was because the state gave them monopolies?

Even moreso than that.  See 0:54 to 1:40 of this video:  [yt]EeW3QVDaS1k[/yt]

[Travis Retriever]

But I digress.  BACK TO FAIL QUOTES!

"ABOUT ME AND MY MISSION:
I want you to know, the crux of my mission is to elevate Progressivism and to define the goals and philosophies we strive for in such as way as to be concise, honest and comprehensive. I firmly believe that it is the best way forward for America and that the majority of Americans are actually socially Progressive and marginally economically conservative.

Our voices are muted by the fact that Progresivism promotes social and economic justice and these two points are anathema to predatory capitalism. I believe in and promote a mixed market economy, one in which private enterprise is encouraged and nurtured to promote innovation and progress but where American Citizens are seen as a family. We pitch in together toward Democratically defined goals and programs and protect our valuable resources both tangible and intangible.

Welcome!"--Frank of "The Frank Factor"; introduction on their website.
The same person/people who made this video: [yt]uzLNc7IZU14[/yt]
Which is ironically the "Featured Video" on Shane's "What is the Free Market?" video.

[Travis Retriever]

"Landlords, like all other men, love to reap where they never sowed."--Karl Marx

[Travis Retriever]

"christianity led to the rejection of aristotle and the development of natural science via nominalism which was theologically motivated"--some religious woo commenting on Stefan's latest video

[Travis Retriever]

I just watched [yt]bMBS43qn7Kg[/yt] by Jacob Spinney.
In it he asks four questions to socialists/communists (be sure to watch the video first, or the fail-quote to follow won't make much sense).

Stargazer5781 noted that based on conversations he's had with socialists, the questions Jacob asked in his video would be answered like this:

1. People would not take out more than they put in. This is a capitalist mentality. People will take what they need and contribute as much as they can because they will value the community as a whole. If they really don't, then I guess they'd get ostracized from the community.
2. People would vote on how much everyone should work, and everyone would work that much.
3. All labor is equal. The labor of the doctor is equally valuable to the society as the labor of the janitor, and they would receive equal access to community resources.
4. The way it works in Cuba is that if something needs to be done, people volunteer to do it because they want to help each other. This is how unpleasant jobs like trash collection etc. are achieved without capitalism. As far as compensation, they would receive whatever they needed.
The community votes on what it needs ahead of time, and the resources are devoted towards achieving those ends as best as possible. This is actually superior to markets because of the impossibility of economic calculation. In Capitalism, entrepreneurs must guess what consumers desire. In socialism, consumers indicate their desires ahead of time and production is directed to fit those desires. Value is derived from labor, so I don't know what you mean by "contributing value".

Stargazer5781 then continues on with: "...and yes, I actually had a socialist use the economic calculation argument against markets once. I almost fell over out of sheer confusion, disbelief, and hilarity."

[Travis Retriever]

Anarchists are libertarian socialists and some libertarian socialists are anarcho-communists, you dumbass.
Anarcho-capitalists are not anarchists since they are authoritarians and right-wing libertarians are not libertarians. They are fucking liberals. Term "libertarian" throughout history always meant anti-authoritarian socialist.
Now take that middle finger and shove it up your ass!

--Grindermetalhead being a fucktard.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

"Again, look at the anime industry and the issue of pirating. Why do you think people download torrents if they have the "I want it, so I pay for it" mentality?
People will freeload whenever they get the opertunaty. It's just a matter of what opertunaty they get.
I would like to see your source that suggests the NHS is responsible for the defacit. However this is something that will have to be delt with as the wellfare of the patiant should be always come first."

To which I replied: Opportunities such as....being elected to office where you are granted the exclusive, monopolistic right to extract money from the whole populace by force and not only get away with it, be praised for it?
If you're actually worried about free loaders, I think piracy ought to be the least of your concerns.  -_-

I think I'm going to name a new fallacy after this.

[Gumba Masta]

I read that the main concern, for the Japanese publishers at least, is'nt the sales they loose but the fear that they loose their mangaka.
Which I read on an article here.
Also be advised that there are boobies on the site, so mostly NSFW, I think.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

From what I hear, people who pirate have actually been found to buy MORE than those who don't so his point is even weaker on that front.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Ah Rachel Browyn, you keep me in business.

Someone on a forum just had a pregnancy test tell her she was pregnant.  Rachel's reply...word for word was this...

I'd urge you to think about over-population, how people are destroying the planet and the thousands upon thousands of people who will never be adopted because every time someone gets pregnant, is bullied into carrying the pregnancy to term and has their seed adopted, it denies another potential adoptee already in foster care a home and stable life. Nothing changes for those waiting to be adopted and the planet is further over-populated. Yippee! I do wish people would stop overlooking all the horrific realities of adoption and foster care. Save one child (that never had to be produced but was because...because) and deny another a home – it's the American thing to do! It's not an argument against adoption. It's an option that may be right for you. I'd just appreciate that everyone stop pretending adopting is just peachy and that women really have no excuse to abort because it's available.

I'd also urge you to keep in mind there is no baby present and it has no sense of consciousness and certainly has no ability to suffer physically or psychologically. These are human cells. They are not a human. If your god or anyone else's opposes the termination, I assure you they'll intervene. If not, any just god will understand your reasoning and not damn you for all eternity for making a decision contrary to their desire. The only reason not to terminate a pregnancy is because you don't want to and it's a terrific reason. No one else's desires should have any impact on your decision and, frankly, no one has any business expressing their desires to you regarding what you do with a pregnancy unless you request that information, as those desires may result is guilt or obligation for you, which no one has any business imposing on you. Part of respecting someone's choice is not imposing one's desires on the carrier. I do wish people would do more of it. And I certainly have no investment in you terminating. I just don't think it should be presented as the evil procedure it's considered by the ignorrant masses. It is what it is, just like adoption and we shouldn't pretend either is something it's not.

Heartless as it sounds, I don't care what you do. For your sake and the sake of anyone else impacted, I hope the decision you make is a rational one, not an emotional one or one you're bullied into making. All anyone should be providing you with is facts. Forget feelings and opinions and beliefs. None of those pertain to you or your pregnancy. We all know there are positives and negatives to all the options, and only you can weigh those accurately as they pertain to you and your life. As long as you do what's right for you, I'm thrilled.

I'm incredibly proud of my family for choosing not to reproduce. I haven't a single aunt or cousin or sibling who has. Lots of the women in my family have undergone endometrial ablation in their mid twenties. If they'd all chosen to have kids, I'd be just as happy for them. All I care about is that they make the right decision for themselves.

More importantly though: home pregnancy tests are ridiculous. I always have two lying around because, prior to injecting my contraceptive, I need to be sure I'm not pregnant. Otherwise I could fuck up the foetus which I wouldn't know about until the pregnancy was well underway. I couldn't live with the idea my negligence had disabled a child. Until I've had two consecutive negatives I don't trust the results enough to inject. At best, a couple of positive results are reason to visit the doctor. They mean very little. While the stupid things are advertised as 99+% effective, none of the bazillions of things that can compromise the tests including human error are taken into account. Over 25% of my results are false positives that I use to scare my boyfriend with. "I can't handle anymore!" I got a girlfriend to pee on a bunch while she was pregnant until we got a negative result and it didn't even take two trips to the bathroom. My boyfriend has produced positive results. Just get a blood test and/or an ultrasound and some real answers.

I replied how disturbing it was that her reply was basically "Go green!  Flush your baby!" and got this...

Well, not having kids is the most environmentally friendly thing to one can do. There's no argument to be had about THAT. I'm just crazy-tired of the dumbass argument that adoption is the best option for everyone as it completely overlooks all the incredibly negative outcomes of producing a child, even if you don't keep it and it ends up with a responsible family. It will still have a negative impact on the planet and the people who are denied adoption because it was produced. That's the reality of adoption that no one is willing to face because they're so busy pretending they're doing the humane thing by not terminating the pregnancy.

The fact it's the only environmentally friendly option doesn't necessarily make it the right option for everyone. I'm not THAT delusional.

And I think you know how profoundly hyperbolic the "Flush your baby" statement you made is. I may not romantacise the topic of reproduction and I'm certainly analytical but I'd never condone or promote the idea of "flushing" something that's fully conscious and has the capacity to suffer physicologically and physically, whether it's in or outside the mother's body. I'm just in favour of people not having kids where ever it's desired, even if that means preventing embryos from becoming kids. Embryo =/= baby.

So, how far can anyone read into this before feeling nauseous?

[Gumba Masta]

You're right!
That person is clearly crazy. She hasn't thought this one through. What to do with the aborted fetuses.
Think of how many people go hungry every day. We could feed thousands with them instead!

[Travis Retriever]

"@Morrakiu This comment is bs. Libsocs view property the way you view intellectual property. IP creates artificial monopolies which allow for unjustified profits by creating artificial barriers to entry. Same applies to land property. Since an an-cap society would use violence to protect private property, I could simply reverse your argument."--NoMoreSunsets

Which might actually mean something if actual physical property and "intellectual" property were in any way similar...

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Pardon me but ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? Do you know nothing of the seventh extinction? Do you even read? Books? Articles in science journals? Anything? Overpopulation is the primary factor in the destruction of the planet. How you can say something so profoundly stupid is beyond me.

What's the Seventh Extinction?  Anyone wanna buzz in on that one?

[MrBogosity]

An extinction period is a period where the number of species on the Earth drops by 25% or more. The Earth has been through six such extinctions before, the last one occurring near the Pleistocene/Holocene boundary. Some biologists are claiming we're going through one now, and they call it the Seventh Extinction. There is no scientific consensus for it, though.