Fail Quotes

Started by Travis Retriever, October 17, 2009, 03:00:20 PM

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Quote from: BlameThe1st on October 09, 2014, 07:38:41 PM
This is what Tumblr thinks of the new South Park episode:



These people are pretty much sociopaths.
And THAT is how you know you're dealing with a sopistic coward.  When they pull out the opinion card.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Anybody ever see the futurama episode "Decision 3012." Oh how such a usually good show fails when it talks about politics.
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Quote from: ArtemisVale on October 10, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
Anybody ever see the futurama episode "Decision 3012." Oh how such a usually good show fails when it talks about politics.

What's fail about it? The moral is basically, it doesn't matter which awful candidate wins!

And then there's "A Head in the Polls," especially the debate between Jack Johnson and John Jackson.

Quote from: MrBogosity on October 10, 2014, 07:25:19 PM
What's fail about it? The moral is basically, it doesn't matter which awful candidate wins!

And then there's "A Head in the Polls," especially the debate between Jack Johnson and John Jackson.

Well those are fine, its the state worshiping i cant stomach.
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"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

October 11, 2014, 12:25:27 PM #6741 Last Edit: October 11, 2014, 03:32:23 PM by Altimadark
That should really say:
Paul Krugman, "economist."

EDIT:

So for no good reason, I found the source for this quote: "Secret Defecit Lovers" by Paul Krugman. The article focuses more on how the deficit is "plunging," which itself is full of bogons, but I digress. The quote refers entirely to another article he cites, which means the "economist" is making his claim without actually taking a critical look at it himself.  The second article is a piece on Vox by Ezra Klein (1), which for this discussion refers to another one of Klein's articles (2), which in turn refers to a study by the Kaiser Family Foundation (3). So with all that in mind, let's take a critical look at those claims:

"Enrollment is above expectations"
Curiously, while one (just one) of the articles gives a figure for the number of enrollees, none of them say anything about how high these expectations were. (EDIT 2) And they don't even bother comparing that to the number of people who've lost their insurance. (/EDIT 2)

"Costs are lower than expected"
Based on the aforementioned study. (EDIT 2) Which is only estimating 2015 health insurance costs. (/EDIT 2) Which even Klein all but admits is cherry-picking: "...to be fair, the Kaiser Family Foundation is only looking at 16 cities..." Which the article itself says is only compared to 2014 prices. And which only boasts a "modest" average drop of "0.8 percent." Remind me, how much did prices rise from 2013 to 2014? (And believe it or not, this is actually Klein's best-supported claim.)

"...the number of Americans without insurance has sharply dropped."
There is nothing here. Krugman only said it because Klein said it. Klein said it and didn't bother citing a source of it. There is literally nothing to back up this claim.

Gee, Krugman, perhaps the reason why nobody knows about these things is because they're entirely fabricated? I'm not even sure who's the bigger bogon emitter here: Klein for the entirely bogus fabrication, or Krugman for repeating these claims without taking any sort of critical look at them.
Failing to clean up my own mistakes since the early 80s.

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So, talking to ArcticSlicer on this video. We say that Anita has no evidence that her these problems hurt women, He accuses us of ad hominem and pulls up rape statistics and the wage gap.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 11, 2014, 03:10:14 PM
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So, talking to ArcticSlicer on this video. We say that Anita has no evidence that her these problems hurt women, He accuses us of ad hominem and pulls up rape statistics and the wage gap.
Despite the fact that both of those two--wage gap AND rape statistics have been debunked ad nauseum.  Info that is just a Google search away.  There really is no excuse anymore.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 11, 2014, 03:24:06 PM
Despite the fact that both of those two--wage gap AND rape statistics have been debunked ad nauseum.  Info that is just a Google search away.  There really is no excuse anymore.
Plus they have nothing to do with it in the first place.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: Altimadark on October 11, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
The article focuses more on how the deficit is "plunging," which itself is full of bogons,

It sounds better than "The debt is increasing by not as much."

October 11, 2014, 07:52:53 PM #6746 Last Edit: October 11, 2014, 07:59:24 PM by Altimadark
Quote from: MrBogosity on October 11, 2014, 07:31:25 PM
It sounds better than "The debt is increasing by not as much."

Notably, Krugman actually points out the difference between the debt and the deficit in his aforementioned article. The same one which says we should be celebrating the "plunging" deficit.

Makes me wish I could power a generator with all that spin.
Failing to clean up my own mistakes since the early 80s.

"You may not understand but war is what will put the world in order"
— redwolf-2160
To me on Tumblr.  Someone needs their head examined.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Travis Retriever on October 12, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
"You may not understand but war is what will put the world in order"
— redwolf-2160
To me on Tumblr.  Someone needs their head examined.

Yes, it will: all in neat rows, 6 feet under...

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 11, 2014, 03:10:14 PM
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So, talking to ArcticSlicer on this video. We say that Anita has no evidence that her these problems hurt women, He accuses us of ad hominem and pulls up rape statistics and the wage gap.
This asshole just the you don't understand because you've never been a victim card.
QuoteThe problem though is that it's only possible to interact with said female characters in a negative way.  To understand why this is a problem you need to understand issues that affect women.  Sarkeesian's videos are directed at an audience that is knowledgeable or at least receptive to issues that affect women.  I'm not quite sure what that's so hard for you to understand.  Maybe it's because you do not have a female gender identity; have never experienced domestic abuse, have never been treated like a "sex object" or at least unable to be empathetic to such issues. If you understand how these issues do affect women then it should be obvious why negative portrayals of women in the media are a problem.
Fourteen years of child abuse asshole.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu