Fail Quotes

[FSBlueApocalypse]

Libertarian candidate makes a joke about CVS still selling candy/beer/etc after stopping to sell cigarettes and /r/Libertarian on reddit explodes in fail

http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/1x54jp/the_florida_libertarian_candidate_for_governor_is/

[dallen68]

Dear Minimum Wage Supporters,

If it's really that damn easy to make people earn more without increasing their productivity, why stop there?  Advocate a minimum wage of $9001/hour and index it to the average price of food.  If it's that damn easy...

Sincerely,

Travis Retriever

PS:  No, no bullshit about, "that's stupid! We do it for the living wage!  Yer uh meaneh!" If you want to be taken seriously, be consistent.

As far as it goes, they could mandate the price of certain key items, like say legislate that a 1/2 lb loaf of bread is $1, and price every thing around that, instead of mandating how much to pay someone. Just as much bullshit, but ostensibly it would serve the pretend purpose.

On a more serious note, it would be interesting to research the history of the minimum wage, I'd be particularly interested to know if the original intent was to improve these peoples lives, or if it was originally an anti-competition scheme, like to prevent a smaller competitor from under cutting established companies on price of production, and the like.

[Altimadark]

Think Communism with magic robots.  Basically money = the source of evil, and by going back to a barter economy, all will be good; as we will have robots doing all the work for us without workers having to compete (:0) with them.

That's more or less what I got from his comments. I just wasn't 100% sure because said comments are difficult to read thru.

On a related note, I'm curious now if his opinions on liberty are from Zeitgeist, or his own ramblings:

Rui PTG
you want someone to be 100% free of buying a gun and going up to you and shooting you in the face? because that's what true freedom is. People need some sort of guideline to live, that's obvious, but then that means we can't be 100% free

[dallen68]

color=red]Rui PTG
(correcting grammer)you want someone to be 100% free of to buying a gun and going up to you and shooting you in the face? because that's what true freedom is. People need some sort of guideline to live, that's obvious, but then that means we can't be 100% free[/color]

Nobody says that you're free to walk up and shoot somebody in the face. As the saying goes, "the rights of your fist end where my nose begins". Come to think of it, that actually works in both directions in his example. Person A doesn't have a right to shoot Person B in the face and Person B doesn't have a right to stop Person A from buying a gun because of irrational fear of being shot in the face.

[Altimadark]

Yea, I tried to explain that to him, and he effectively replied by saying what he just said -- we can't be 100% free because we'd all kill each other, therefore we need a "system" (read "government"). Further attempts to get more substance on this argument have proven futile.

[Skm1091]

Yea, I tried to explain that to him, and he effectively replied by saying what he just said -- we can't be 100% free because we'd all kill each other, therefore we need a "system" (read "government"). Further attempts to get more substance on this argument have proven futile.

That is funny because I bet these people would kill people if it weren't for the government. Psychopathic, wouldn't you say?

[Travis Retriever]

That is funny because I bet these people would kill people if it weren't for the government. Psychopathic, wouldn't you say?

I know right?
As our good friend Richard Dawkins said to a theist who tried to make this argument with regards to god, "Are you saying the only reason you don't murder, rape and steal is because you're afraid of punishment?"  If that's the case, you're really in no position to be lecturing about morals.

Folks, I got news for you.  We're not all that different.  If you think you're the only moral person in the world, kindly get over yourself.  I have asked for solid evidence for this claim for years and all I have to show for it is a pile of VERY weak anecdotes.

Shamelessly ripped from #9 of Lord T Hawkeye's journal here:  http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/Top-11-favorite-statist-arguments-278588905

[Altimadark]

I really shouldn't keep bringing this guy up, but he just re-stated why he believes private property is belief in magic. Make sure you're sitting down for this.

Rui PTG
if you want to own your own land, you can pretend its yours, but nothing is universaly (sic) attaching that land to you, when you die it won't die with you. it can be argued that even your body isnt yours, in fact, the very elements that make up your body were naturally recycled over millions of years, you might be made of elements that were part of a dinosaurs body, or elements that used to be on mars, most of your elements are made from different stars.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

I really shouldn't keep bringing this guy up, but he just re-stated why he believes private property is belief in magic. Make sure you're sitting down for this.

Rui PTG
if you want to own your own land, you can pretend its yours, but nothing is universaly (sic) attaching that land to you, when you die it won't die with you. it can be argued that even your body isnt yours, in fact, the very elements that make up your body were naturally recycled over millions of years, you might be made of elements that were part of a dinosaurs body, or elements that used to be on mars, most of your elements are made from different stars.

I have only three words for that. What the Fuck?!?

[Travis Retriever]

I really shouldn't keep bringing this guy up, but he just re-stated why he believes private property is belief in magic. Make sure you're sitting down for this.

Rui PTG
if you want to own your own land, you can pretend its yours, but nothing is universaly (sic) attaching that land to you, when you die it won't die with you. it can be argued that even your body isnt yours, in fact, the very elements that make up your body were naturally recycled over millions of years, you might be made of elements that were part of a dinosaurs body, or elements that used to be on mars, most of your elements are made from different stars.

My sides!

[Ibrahim90]

I really shouldn't keep bringing this guy up, but he just re-stated why he believes private property is belief in magic. Make sure you're sitting down for this.

Rui PTG
if you want to own your own land, you can pretend its yours, but nothing is universaly (sic) attaching that land to you, when you die it won't die with you. it can be argued that even your body isnt yours, in fact, the very elements that make up your body were naturally recycled over millions of years, you might be made of elements that were part of a dinosaurs body, or elements that used to be on mars, most of your elements are made from different stars.

[spoiler]Fuck...[/spoiler]

yeah, that's all I have to say.

[AnCap Dave]

I don't give a single fuck what Michael Shermer has contributed to the Skeptic Movement. As far as I'm concerned, it no longer matters. He's officially a massive piece of shit. Sometimes, having certain opinions outweigh anything good you've done.

[Dallas Wildman]

I really shouldn't keep bringing this guy up, but he just re-stated why he believes private property is belief in magic. Make sure you're sitting down for this.

Rui PTG
if you want to own your own land, you can pretend its yours, but nothing is universaly (sic) attaching that land to you, when you die it won't die with you. it can be argued that even your body isnt yours, in fact, the very elements that make up your body were naturally recycled over millions of years, you might be made of elements that were part of a dinosaurs body, or elements that used to be on mars, most of your elements are made from different stars.

Errmm...
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I nominate this entry for Idiot Extraordinaire

[Skm1091]

I really shouldn't keep bringing this guy up, but he just re-stated why he believes private property is belief in magic. Make sure you're sitting down for this.

Rui PTG
if you want to own your own land, you can pretend its yours, but nothing is universaly (sic) attaching that land to you, when you die it won't die with you. it can be argued that even your body isnt yours, in fact, the very elements that make up your body were naturally recycled over millions of years, you might be made of elements that were part of a dinosaurs body, or elements that used to be on mars, most of your elements are made from different stars.

Head desk x100000

[spoiler][/spoiler]

[MrBogosity]

I don't give a single fuck what Michael Shermer has contributed to the Skeptic Movement. As far as I'm concerned, it no longer matters. He's officially a massive piece of shit. Sometimes, having certain opinions outweigh anything good you've done.

My question: why was the "F" part even put in to begin with?