Fail Quotes

[dallen68]

I'v actually had people tell me that though. It usually goes like this:"Kids need to know how ti read and right, therefore 1/5 of their lives should be wasted in school for 5 days a week 7+hrs a day to learn stuff they clearly have no interest in and teach little to no real world skills."

Perhaps ironically, when the school system was set up, it was to teach the real world skills that were needed at that time. It actually had little to do with the subjects being taught (that was a secondary consideration).

What the students are/were supposed to be learning is:

1. How to follow orders.
2. How to work as groups to produce a product.
3. How to be indistinguishable from the next guy on the line.
4. How to do repetitive tasks for several hours a day.

It should be understood that in the 1920's and 30's, it was assumed that only those who couldn't afford another option for education would be going to state schools. Of those that did, it was expected that they would a) become farmers, b) become soldiers, c) get a job at the factory. Back then, "normal" was you got a job out of high school (or sometimes middle school) and you worked there until you retired forty-some years later.

[BreadGod]

Former NSA and CIA director Michael Hayden continues to bring the stupid in this interview with Meet the Press.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3032608/#53837084

Here's the biggest bit of bogosity:

"This was all done according to the Madisonian formula. President authorized, the legislature legislated and the courts oversaw."

[AnCap Dave]

[BreadGod]

I want to explain to the cartoonist why the minimum wage actually hurts the people it tries to help, but he'll refuse to understand it.

[AnCap Dave]

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Nostalgia Critic's arguments here are just very lame.

[MrBogosity]

I want to explain to the cartoonist why the minimum wage actually hurts the people it tries to help, but he'll refuse to understand it.

Explain to him that the rich fat cats WANT a higher Minimum Wage and the small businesses are the ones hurt by it and watch his head go asplodey.

[Altimadark]

Explain to him that the rich fat cats WANT a higher Minimum Wage and the small businesses are the ones hurt by it and watch his head go asplodey.

Reminds me of when I tried to explain this to ShiniHLaser on some YT comments about 3-4 months ago. It was telling, to be sure.

For the record, I've brought up Mr. Laser's comments twice before, I just didn't bring up this detail because he emitted a LOT of bogons.

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Altimadark
...businesses lobby govt for regulations which give them a competitive advantage; for example, Wal-Mart lobbies to increase minimum wage. Do you have any response to this?

ShiniHLaser
Bullshit. When Washington, DC wanted to create a living minimum wage, Wal-Mart's response was to threaten the city to stop construction of three new Wal-Marts in the DC area. But hey, obviously they love it so much they will try to hold jobs as hostage to ensure it isn't raised, right?

Yes, Wal-Mart lobbied for an increase in the minimum wage back in 2005. Check out "Wal-Mart backs hike to minimum wage" and "Wal-Mart calls for minimum wage hike". Would you like to reconsider a response to this?

He (sic) called for a minimum wage hike so other people who work for other companies have more disposable income to spend at Wal-Mart...It is a double standard.

So by recognizing the double-standard, do you understand my point? That corps lobby govt for favorable regulations in order to gain a competitive advantage?

It isn't competitive advantage. It a way to make more profits...So, how about this, kid. I am done with my lunch break, so how about we stop...and you acknowledge that big business hates the minimum wage overall.

There is more for those willing to dig through YT's comment system, but trust me when I tell you Mr. Laser's comments do nothing to make him look any smarter.

[Travis Retriever]

Reminds me of when I tried to explain this to ShiniHLaser on some YT comments about 3-4 months ago. It was telling, to be sure.

For the record, I've brought up Mr. Laser's comments twice before, I just didn't bring up this detail because he emitted a LOT of bogons.

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Altimadark
...businesses lobby govt for regulations which give them a competitive advantage; for example, Wal-Mart lobbies to increase minimum wage. Do you have any response to this?

ShiniHLaser
Bullshit. When Washington, DC wanted to create a living minimum wage, Wal-Mart's response was to threaten the city to stop construction of three new Wal-Marts in the DC area. But hey, obviously they love it so much they will try to hold jobs as hostage to ensure it isn't raised, right?

Yes, Wal-Mart lobbied for an increase in the minimum wage back in 2005. Check out "Wal-Mart backs hike to minimum wage" and "Wal-Mart calls for minimum wage hike". Would you like to reconsider a response to this?

He (sic) called for a minimum wage hike so other people who work for other companies have more disposable income to spend at Wal-Mart...It is a double standard.

So by recognizing the double-standard, do you understand my point? That corps lobby govt for favorable regulations in order to gain a competitive advantage?

It isn't competitive advantage. It a way to make more profits...So, how about this, kid. I am done with my lunch break, so how about we stop...and you acknowledge that big business hates the minimum wage overall.

There is more for those willing to dig through YT's comment system, but trust me when I tell you Mr. Laser's comments do nothing to make him look any smarter.

So which is it, ShiniHLaser?  Do they want to lower costs of workers or do they want to give the workers of other companies more income to spend at their corporation?  Those two are mutually exclusive--either they hate it because of the former or they love it because of the latter.  Consistency would be nice!

[Travis Retriever]

Speaking of fail, thanks DeviantART!


(I don't think those words mean what you think they do, OP)


(I bet if I explained to him that the rich fat cats WANT those regulations because of the small businesses they have for competition are not as easily absorb the costs of compliance and therefore hurt them that his head would go asplodey.)

I know that as an art site I probably shouldn't expect much win, but damn.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

The simple question: If it's really that bad, why are they working there in a free society?  Not to say conditions are neccessarily good but it's something they ought to consider.  Why are people working there anyway?

[R.E.H.W.R.]

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I think this one is for you Hawkeye.

[Travis Retriever]

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I think this one is for you Hawkeye.

The description says it all:

"I'm just genuinely curious about how anarcho capitalists / libertarians envision a stateless society without everything derailing into might makes right and the reign of the rich.

Personally while I like the concept of a free society from an idealistic point of view, I see the state as a necessary evil. Even with government regulations we already have corporations exploiting people, trying to eliminate competition and accumulating as much wealth, resources and power as possible.

So if you think an anarcho capitalist society would work, I would appreciate if you explained how you envision it. Who or what prevents any individual or group from becoming too powerful? How do you prevent warlords from rising to power? How are conflicts resolved without law enforcement, or even laws at all?"

The same tired, hackneyed bullshit we've all heard and refuted a thousand times.

[Travis Retriever]

So I've noticed something during my years on the internet.  Of the furries who are politically inclined, the vast majority are leftists.  There's a bunch of conservative ones too, with Mike The Cat on DeviantART being a good example of this, but there are others.  But libertarian furs--much less anarcho capitalist ones?  I've only seen like, 2-3 around.
Jason Fennec (FlowCell)
MotionFur (username of a an-cap fur on YouTube who seems to be M.I.A. for some reason).
And this guy I knew way back when named FenrisRedWolf on DA (He was the first person to tell me that my US Gov't teacher was full of shit when she said that libertarians are on the extreme right).
At least until I checked out his account again and saw this journal which is the reason I put this post in fail quotes:  http://fenrisdesigns.deviantart.com/journal/Giving-up-on-libertarians-222697322

After some four or five years and plenty of consideration, I think I'll step away from promoting libertarians or their respective party. Why?

1: The slow realization that yes, most of them are the non-moderate stereotypes you see on TV.
2: Unwillingness to side with those who so openly associate with closet confederates like Ron Paul, blatant Neo-Confederates like Lew Rockwell, and anti-Semites like Alex Jones.
3: Getting sick and tired of having to explain that yes, I like roads, schools, and running water.

Meaning right now I'm...something. I'll figure it out later. Back to my cage.

[Altimadark]

So which is it, ShiniHLaser?  Do they want to lower costs of workers or do they want to give the workers of other companies more income to spend at their corporation?  Those two are mutually exclusive--either they hate it because of the former or they love it because of the latter.  Consistency would be nice!

Oh, that thing about Wal-Mart fighting DC's attempt to legislate a living wage? Yeah, Mr. Laser didn't make that up, that was actually going on at the time. Mr. Laser even recognized that said legislation was meant to target larger business like Wal-Mart  (also Home Depot and Macy's, among others). His fail is when he cherry-picked this example to prove "big business hates the minimum wage overall."

In recent news, DC is again talking about raising the minimum wage, this time across the board. Wal-Mart is barely protesting at all.

[Travis Retriever]

Oh, that thing about Wal-Mart fighting DC's attempt to legislate a living wage? Yeah, Mr. Laser didn't make that up, that was actually going on at the time. Mr. Laser even recognized that said legislation was meant to target larger business like Wal-Mart  (also Home Depot and Macy's, among others). His fail is when he cherry-picked this example to prove "big business hates the minimum wage overall."

In recent news, DC is again talking about raising the minimum wage, this time across the board. Wal-Mart is barely protesting at all.

/boggle