The most uninteresting internet talking points

[Lord T Hawkeye]

Doesn't have to be politics, can be anything.  Just give me what talking points you're tired of hearing and give a nice, brief reply to it so we can make a handy list.

Politics

Anarchism is utopian!
So how's that "Give a bunch of guys violent power and cross your fingers they don't abuse it" plan working out for ya?

Monsatto is TEH EVIL!!
Well yes they are but not for the reasons you think, see below.

GMO's are TEH EVIL!!
GMO's are not a new thing.  In fact, us messing with the genes of animals and plants for our own benefit is the one of the big reasons why starvation is not a thing in your world so kindly get off your high horse and do some actual research before opening your mouth please.

Big Pharma is TEH EVIL!!
Again, they kinda are but not for the reasons you think.

Charging for essential services IS TEH EVIL!
First of all, since when is paying taxes not charging for a service?  Second of all, are you insinuating that everyone who goes into "essential" fields should be forced to work for free because last I checked, that's called slavery and I really wonder how you plan to attract anyone into that field.  Think before you speak.

Rape cultural patriarchy!
You know, rather than repeat hollow mantras, it might help your cause to actually cite some sources and put real claims on the table because if you're implying that western society morally and legally tolerates rape, then you really have not been paying attention to the news these days.  Do the words "Duke Lacross" ring any bells for example?

Socialism can work if we just...
Whatever you were planning to finish that sentence with, it's already been done and has resulted in the ruling class making out like bandits and everyone else being poorer.  Socialism attempts to create equality through inequality and that's why it doesn't work.  Accept it and move on.

We are the 99%, eat the rich, etc etc...
And you're appealing to the richest and most powerful people in the country who are best buds for life with the rest of the rich people in the country to do that for you.  I really don't think you've thought this through very well.



Movies/TV

Twilight is the worst book ever!  RRRARRGH!!
Yes, yes it is.  We know.  We don't need to be reminded and would rather not be.  Please stop drawing attention to it.  You're just encouraging it.

CGI ruines movies!
I find this baffling because those who say it love to praise the hilariously unrealistic puppets and animatronics of the past, arguing that those movies had you using your imagination.  Yet you can't use your imagination with CGI?  Double standards much?

Wrestling is fake!
Not exactly one of the unsolvable mysteries of the universe there Sherlock.  And here's a newsflash: So are most of the TV shows, plays and other entertainment you watch.  Same thing!

I hate Justin Bieber!  Why won't he go away?
Fun fact: I only knew about his existence because of people like you complaining about it.  There's a moral here.


Video games

Video games don't represent women!
Really?  An industry that most women have turned their noses up at for the past 20 years doesn't represent them very well?  How truly shocking!

Dumbing down video games for the filthy casuals!  RRRARRGH!!
I'll quote Moviebob on this one: It's a game, not the SAT's.  Get over yourself.

Mario/Zelda/other franchise is old!
I'll let you in on a little secret: We know.  Nintendo knows, the fans know, everyone knows.  Nintendo and the fans just don't care and you're doing nothing even remotely helpful by pointing it out.

Skimpy costumes for female characters is TEH SEXIST!!
Even if she dresses that way by choice?  Who are you to judge?  The middle east FORCES their women to cover up and you undoubtedly call them oppressors.  You think maybe you're missing the mark a little bit?

Wii/WiiU is gimmicky/for casuals...blah blah...
Yeah cause exclusively going for the gun wanking fratboys has turned out to be such a great business model for Sony and MS hasn't it?  Nobody likes a sore loser guys.

[Ibrahim90]

Justin Bieber (or really, any celebrity)...he's not important, and yet people talk about him too much.

[MrBogosity]

"Well, that's TECHNICALLY correct..."

Why, yes, it is. It's also "technically" correct that the Earth goes around the sun. Something cannot be correct without being technically correct. A joke from Futurama goes, "You are technically correct—the best kind of correct!" But really, what other kinds of correct are there?

[dallen68]

"Well, that's TECHNICALLY correct..."

Why, yes, it is. It's also "technically" correct that the Earth goes around the sun. Something cannot be correct without being technically correct. A joke from Futurama goes, "You are technically correct—the best kind of correct!" But really, what other kinds of correct are there?

When I use that phrase, it's because I'm saying that while whatever the (usually trifingly bullshit) point is is true, it does not support whatever the argument the person is making is. I assume everybody else does the same.

[MrBogosity]

When I use that phrase, it's because I'm saying that while whatever the (usually trifingly bullshit) point is is true, it does not support whatever the argument the person is making is. I assume everybody else does the same.

Then call it what it is: a non-sequitur.

[Travis Retriever]

I would also argue Justin Bieber's brand of haters goes in the same category as Twilight's bit.
To give you an idea, I only found out about him through the folks bitching about him.  I wish I was making that up.  Same for Twilight.

*Edit: aand, I just realized Ibrahim90 already mentioned him.  Oh well.

[nilecroc]

Dumbing down video games for the filthy casuals!  RRRARRGH!!
I'll quote Moviebob on this one: It's a game, not the SAT's.  Get over yourself.

CoughSkyrimcough

[dallen68]

"something" that "someone" can't answer...

Yeah, they probably can. And probably have. You just didn't like the answer

[AnCap Dave]

When it comes to celebrity deaths you always have that one guy who says something like, "WOOPTY DOO A CELEBRITY DIED! WHY DO ANY OF YOU CARE?!"z

Yeah, because I can't just repeat that question to said person...

[Travis Retriever]

Government can work if we just...
Whatever you were planning to finish that sentence with, it's already been done and has resulted in the ruling class and their cronies making out like bandits and everyone else being poorer; to put it mildly.  Government is founded on logical fallacies like special pleading ("monopolies are bad...unless they're the state") and self detonating arguments ("to get rid of the initiation of force against peaceful people we need to give all the guns, nukes, prisons armies, etc and the moral and legal right to initiate overwhelming force against peaceful people to a single organization and cross their fingers they don't abuse it.") and that's why it doesn't work.  You've all had your chance:  Socialists, Fascists, Communists, Nazis, democracies--direct and representative, monarchy, dictatorship, oligarchy, republic, democratic republic, minarchist/minimal state--over 6000 years and nothing to show except over a billion dead bodies--and that's just the ones we KNOW of!--countless ruined lives, more wealth wasted/squandered/destroyed/prevented from forming than can ever be counted and the holding back of all of humanity--our progress, our technology, our science and our morality by at least 6000 years.  Government as an institution is a failure.   Accept it and move on.

[Travis Retriever]

HOW'S YOUR SYSTEM GONNA BE BETTER?!!?!?
Hey, dumbass, I'm an anarchist.  Which means I'm not proposing an "alternative system" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean) anymore than an atheist is proposing another god--if he is, he's not an atheist by definition, Q.E.D.  The burden of proof rests on the one making the positive claim.  You're the one defending the state--and all the crimes it commits (see above).  That absolutely places it on you.  The status quo doesn't get to win just because it's the status quo; a lame circular argument and attempt to shift the burden of proof, really.   All this avoidance of our questions and attempts to weasel out of having to proof yourself just reeks of a guilty conscience.

Simply put, why should I believe/accept something (the state's legitimacy) if it's never been proven?  Being the status quo != proof.  Nor does might makes right.  You could justify anything from slavery, Stalin's Purges, the Great Leap forward and the holocaust.  And spare me the "Godwin's Law!" bollocks.  The shoe fits.  Wear it.

[Travis Retriever]

Who were the ones who stopped the nazis?
Who WERE the nazis?  And commies?  And fascists?  For the statist shit-for-brains/failed abortions who need it spelled out, they were all statists like you.

[AnCap Dave]

"BUT BUSH"

I still hear that shit from liberals. At this point it may as well become a fallacy.

[Skm1091]

"BUT BUSH"

I still hear that shit from liberals. At this point it may as well become a fallacy.

But..... The Republicans.

[evensgrey]

Who were the ones who stopped the nazis?
Who WERE the nazis?  And commies?  And fascists?

And can you even tell the difference in any significant way?  (For instance, if fascism and communism are diametrically opposed, and your typical left-wing wackjob will assert, why is it that China managed to go directly from communism to fascism without any intermediate form between them?)