http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-forum/naruto-versus-wonder-woman-98781/
Wonder women would eviscerate naruto in her slee.
Quote from: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 09:31:35 PM
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Wonder women would eviscerate naruto in her slee.
Oh wow. The comments on that are just painful.
One is saying that Goku would get his ass kicked by the power rangers: "ANIME Goku struggled to lift a bus, gets tagged by bullets, gets hurt by baseball sized rocks, moves slow enough to be seen by the humans, how is he beating the power rangers and their city-block demolishing megazords again...?"
He could also blow up entire planets with ki/qi blasts relatively early in the DBZ series. Nobody likes a cherry picker, bro.
Quote from: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 09:31:35 PM
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Wonder women would eviscerate naruto in her slee.
I don't know. He's gotten pretty powerful lately.
Quote from: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 09:31:35 PM
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Wonder women would eviscerate naruto in her slee.
I haven't watched much of wonder woman or Naruto so I wouldn't know.
Quote from: T dog on December 27, 2013, 09:42:52 PM
Oh wow. The comments on that are just painful.
One is saying that Goku would get his ass kicked by the power rangers: "ANIME Goku struggled to lift a bus, gets tagged by bullets, gets hurt by baseball sized rocks, moves slow enough to be seen by the humans, how is he beating the power rangers and their city-block demolishing megazords again...?"
He could also blow up entire planets with ki/qi blasts relatively early in the DBZ series. Nobody likes a cherry picker, bro.
Goku get his ass whooped by power rangers? (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif)
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 27, 2013, 09:44:46 PM
I don't know. He's gotten pretty powerful lately.
This was a while ago but last I check naruto can turn into a giant energy fox. And im pretty sure killing someone in their sleep is more what ninjas are thought of doing than greek warriors.
Quote from: T dog on December 27, 2013, 09:42:52 PM
Oh wow. The comments on that are just painful.
One is saying that Goku would get his ass kicked by the power rangers: "ANIME Goku struggled to lift a bus, gets tagged by bullets, gets hurt by baseball sized rocks, moves slow enough to be seen by the humans, how is he beating the power rangers and their city-block demolishing megazords again...?"
He could also blow up entire planets with ki/qi blasts relatively early in the DBZ series. Nobody likes a cherry picker, bro.
I think that he is saying that choosing the lowest possible feats for a character is stupid. Hence the cherry picker comment.
Quote from: AnCapBrony on December 27, 2013, 10:24:34 PM
This was a while ago but last I check naruto can turn into a giant energy fox. And im pretty sure killing someone in their sleep is more what ninjas are thought of doing than greek warriors.
Latest chapter has him on his death bed after madara pulled the kyuubi out of him.
Quote from: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 10:26:07 PM
I think that he is saying that choosing the lowest possible feats for a character is stupid. Hence the cherry picker comment.
If the power rangers fought goku from the saiyan saga. I bet they would last ten seconds at most. What about you guys?
Quote from: AnCapBrony on December 27, 2013, 10:24:34 PM
This was a while ago but last I check naruto can turn into a giant energy fox. And im pretty sure killing someone in their sleep is more what ninjas are thought of doing than greek warriors.
I thought Wonder Woman was from the Amazon?
Quote from: T dog on December 27, 2013, 10:34:29 PM
I thought Wonder Woman was from the Amazon?
She's from an Island called Themyscira, which is a place run by women who worship the ancient greek pantheons.
Quote from: T dog on December 27, 2013, 10:34:29 PM
I thought Wonder Woman was from the Amazon?
She's from a feminist's wet dream.
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 27, 2013, 10:32:27 PM
If the power rangers fought goku from the saiyan saga. I bet they would last ten seconds at most. What about you guys?
Goku would go easy on them for being so weak. Vegeta on the other hand...
Quote from: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 10:42:35 PM
Goku would go easy on them for being so weak. Vegeta on the other hand...
Vegeta blew up a planet with only 2 fingers so if they fight him........their doomed.
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 27, 2013, 10:50:42 PM
Vegeta blew up a planet with only 2 fingers so if they fight him........their doomed.
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-smiley-emoticon.gif)
To be fair, that wasn't canon.
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 27, 2013, 10:50:42 PM
Vegeta blew up a planet with only 2 fingers so if they fight him........their doomed.
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Yeah, but those guys kind of sucked. Now had he been fighting these guys: [yt]ZxNss-vrB2g[/yt]
Quote from: nilecroc on December 27, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
Latest chapter has him on his death bed after madara pulled the kyuubi out of him.
Gee thanks for the spoiler :T
Pfeh. None of them would stand a chance against the Shadows.
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All these "who will win" threads and the conversation in Fail Quotes inspired me to make a thread specifically for that kind of dialogue.
LET THE BATTLES BEGIN!
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 28, 2013, 01:01:01 PM
Pfeh. None of them would stand a chance against the Shadows.
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>planet busting
Pfft that's kid's stuff compared to Superman sneezing a solar system out of existence.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1019330-1016357_sasupes_super.jpg)
And that's even ignoring other broken as shit DC characters like Mandrakk (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Mandrakk) who is a multiverse buster.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/vy9itx.jpg)
If you need to know what Immortality type 4 is (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/immortality#Four)
Perhaps we could move this to a topic about overpowered superheros and characters?
EDIT: Ninja'd by D :P
Voldemort vs Imhotep?
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 28, 2013, 01:46:45 PM
Voldemort vs Imhotep?
Whichever one figures out which guy is the enemy boss, since both have effectively instant-kill ranged attacks.
Quote from: D on December 28, 2013, 01:29:53 PM
>planet busting
Pfft that's kid's stuff compared to Superman sneezing a solar system out of existence.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1019330-1016357_sasupes_super.jpg)
And that's even ignoring other broken as shit DC characters like Mandrakk (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Mandrakk) who is a multiverse buster.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/vy9itx.jpg)
If you need to know what Immortality type 4 is (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/immortality#Four)
Death in the Marvel universe. According to the character write-up from Dragon for the old Marvel Superheroes game from TSR, Death has all stats at Beyond rank (considered to be infinity), ALL contact, ALL talents, and ALL powers, also at Beyond rank. This is far from the only character operating at this level in the Marvel universe.
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on December 28, 2013, 02:15:37 PM
From the mummy movies?
Yeah the 1999 film staring Brendan Fraser and Arnold Vosloo.
Quote from: evensgrey on December 28, 2013, 02:24:57 PM
Whichever one figures out which guy is the enemy boss, since both have effectively instant-kill ranged attacks.
If this is pre book of Amun Ra then the Avada Kedavra spell might not work on him. He is said to be unkillable before the book of Amun Ra was read from.
Quote from: D on December 28, 2013, 01:29:53 PM
>planet busting
Pfft that's kid's stuff compared to Superman sneezing a solar system out of existence.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1019330-1016357_sasupes_super.jpg)
And that's even ignoring other broken as shit DC characters like Mandrakk (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Mandrakk) who is a multiverse buster.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/vy9itx.jpg)
If you need to know what Immortality type 4 is (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/immortality#Four)
Still nothing compared to this guy
(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091219170428/digimon/images/c/c9/ZeedMillenniummon_b.jpg)
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/ZeedMillenniummon
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 28, 2013, 02:31:26 PM
If this is pre book of Amun Ra then the Avada Kedavra spell might not work on him. He is said to be unkillable before the book of Amun Ra was read from.
In that case, since Voldemort can't be killed until all seven of the holcruxes are destroyed, and they're spread all over hell's half acre, and there is only one book of Amun Ra, and we know exactly where it is - Voldemort.
Quote from: dallen68 on December 28, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
In that case, since Voldemort can't be killed until all seven of the holcruxes are destroyed, and they're spread all over hell's half acre, and there is only one book of Amun Ra, and we know exactly where it is - Voldemort.
Voldemort would probably make the book a horcrux. Think about it: you can't kill Voldemort before you destroy the horcruxes, and if you destroy the book you can't read the incantation from it!
Do you think Voldemort could beat this guy
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Quote from: dallen68 on December 28, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
In that case, since Voldemort can't be killed until all seven of the holcruxes are destroyed, and they're spread all over hell's half acre, and there is only one book of Amun Ra, and we know exactly where it is - Voldemort.
I guess. But does Voldemort know how to read Ancient Egyptian? Hamunaptra is no picnic to go through, It's also guarded by mummy warrior, booby traps, and If you play psx game there are also mummy wraiths.
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 28, 2013, 06:02:11 PM
Voldemort would probably make the book a horcrux. Think about it: you can't kill Voldemort before you destroy the horcruxes, and if you destroy the book you can't read the incantation from it!
Your confusing it with the book of the dead. The book of Amun Ra aka the Book of the Living is the book used to turn Imhotep mortal. If someone destroys that before the incantation is read volde is gonna be in trouble.
http://mummy.wikia.com/wiki/Book_of_Amun-Ra
http://mummy.wikia.com/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead
And also although there are the Horcruxes his physical form can be destroyed.
Quote from: nilecroc on December 28, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
Do you think Voldemort could beat this guy
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I know one thing. Raoh is far more direct when it comes to killing giant cats.
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Quote from: D on December 28, 2013, 06:57:39 PM
I know one thing. Raoh is far more direct when it comes to killing giant cats.
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To be fair it had just taken out an entire army of tanks.
http://toriko.wikia.com/wiki/Gaoh
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Just Cause.
Quote from: D on December 28, 2013, 06:57:39 PM
I know one thing. Raoh is far more direct when it comes to killing giant cats.
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What show is this from?
Quote from: Skm1091 on December 29, 2013, 12:36:34 AM
What show is this from?
Hokuto no Ken, also known as Fist of the North Star.
Quote from: D on December 29, 2013, 08:14:07 AM
Hokuto no Ken, also known as Fist of the North Star.
I haven't watched fist of the north star but I have heard of it.
BTW
Superman vs Martian Manhunter?
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This guy vs everyone who participated in the crusades.
He's only allowed to use sharingon and taijutsu.
He'd probably still win because he has hypersonic levels of speed and super strength (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Madara+Uchiha). Not to mention sharingan gives him slight precognitive abilities.
OK I got one
10 Kryptonians vs 10000 Deatheaters
I heard Kryptonians are vunerable to magic
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
OK I got one
10 Kryptonians vs 10000 Deatheaters
I heard Kryptonians are vunerable to magic
More accurately, Kryptonians are as vulnerable to magic as a normal human is.
Quote from: Altimadark on January 09, 2014, 02:59:20 PM
More accurately, Kryptonians are as vulnerable to magic as a normal human is.
Ah got cha
But you think this is fair odds.
I mean Kryptonians are pretty damn powerfull after all.
Superman can cause a 50 megaton explosion with single punch.
As someone who has never read any of the Harry Potter books, I really have no idea. :shrug:
Quote from: Altimadark on January 09, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
As someone who has never read any of the Harry Potter books, I really have no idea. :shrug:
watch the movies?
I don't think either side really made good use of what they had for the war, in the books or in the movies. The possibilities that come from just having a time-turner...
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 09, 2014, 04:57:16 PM
I don't think either side really made good use of what they had for the war, in the books or in the movies. The possibilities that come from just having a time-turner...
I'm not sure about that
didn't JK rowling once say that a muggle with shotgun can beat a wizard?
Also if wizards were that powerful they should be the rulers of the planet and not have to hide from the muggles. This implies that their magic although powerful does have limitations.
And there is a big chance is direct fight that the Kryptonian might will be simply too much for even couple dozen wizards, even those who are of Dumbledore and Voldemort level.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 05:31:45 PM
I'm not sure about that
didn't JK rowling once say that a muggle with shotgun can beat a wizard?
Also if wizards were that powerful they should be the rulers of the planet and not have to hide from the muggles. This implies that their magic although powerful does have limitations.
And there is a big chance is direct fight that the Kryptonian might will be simply too much for even couple dozen wizards, even those who are of Dumbledore and Voldemort level.
Well, yes, if a muggle with a gun catches a wizard without a warding spell active (which takes time to cast) the gun wins.
Even with the limitations, the wizards should be ruling the planet, or at least been just recently not ruling the planet. (With 20th century level technology, their magic is no longer as significant of an advantage) This has always been one of my "problems" with the premise of HP.
In a direct fight, the Kryptonians would win simply because Kryptonians get on with it; while wizards have a half hour conversation and a poetry contest in every battle.
In Prisoner of Azkaban, it is implied that muggles are mostly immune to magic. (Which is why they never see the magic around them; of those that do, it's easy enough to convince them that they didn't see what they thought they did or convince everyone else they're "not right")
Quote from: dallen68 on January 09, 2014, 06:23:41 PM
Well, yes, if a muggle with a gun catches a wizard without a warding spell active (which takes time to cast) the gun wins.
Even with the limitations, the wizards should be ruling the planet, or at least been just recently not ruling the planet. (With 20th century level technology, their magic is no longer as significant of an advantage) This has always been one of my "problems" with the premise of HP.
In a direct fight, the Kryptonians would win simply because Kryptonians get on with it; while wizards have a half hour conversation and a poetry contest in every battle.
In Prisoner of Azkaban, it is implied that muggles are mostly immune to magic. (Which is why they never see the magic around them; of those that do, it's easy enough to convince them that they didn't see what they thought they did or convince everyone else they're "not right")
Even in a direct confrontation with a gun. I doubt the wizard can do much against it. Because let say a Wizard and a British Soldier were facing down one another about a hundred feet away. In the movie the spells looked as if they were slow enough for someone to dodge, even deflect with a shield charm. You can't really do that with a bullet, especially bullets that can travel 2 to 4 times the speed of sound. Have you ever pointed a laser pointer against the wall? As soon as you press it on the red dot has instantaneously hit the wall. There is no way someone with average human reflexes can block that in time.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
Even in a direct confrontation with a gun. I doubt the wizard can do much against it. Because let say a Wizard and a British Soldier were facing down one another about a hundred feet away. In the movie the spells looked as if they were slow enough for someone to dodge, even deflect with a shield charm. You can't really do that with a bullet, especially bullets that can travel 2 to 4 times the speed of sound. Have you ever pointed a laser pointer against the wall? As soon as you press it on the red dot has instantaneously hit the wall. There is no way someone with average human reflexes can block that in time.
Well, yeah. Kinda what I said. If the warding spell isn't already active, the wizard is dead by the time he pulls out his wand. This, of course, assumes there's a warding spell that's effective against muggle projectiles, which isn't actually established. Oh, and plus the poetry contest.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 05:31:45 PM
didn't JK rowling once say that a muggle with shotgun can beat a wizard?
Not if he can apparate away quickly enough. Or use the aforementioned time-turner.
QuoteAlso if wizards were that powerful they should be the rulers of the planet and not have to hide from the muggles. This implies that their magic although powerful does have limitations.
They don't care about ruling over muggles. They have their own little tyranny and they like it like that. It would be like us wanting to rule over ants.
Quote from: dallen68 on January 09, 2014, 06:49:16 PM
Well, yeah. Kinda what I said. If the warding spell isn't already active, the wizard is dead by the time he pulls out his wand. This, of course, assumes there's a warding spell that's effective against muggle projectiles, which isn't actually established. Oh, and plus the poetry contest.
poetry contest?
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 09, 2014, 06:50:16 PM
Not if he can apparate away quickly enough. Or use the aforementioned time-turner.
They don't care about ruling over muggles. They have their own little tyranny and they like it like that. It would be like us wanting to rule over ants.
There is my issue with the time-turner thing. Why didn't they just use that to prevent Voldemort from ever coming to be?
I could be missing somethings here because I haven't read the books in the long time.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 06:50:46 PM
poetry contest?
The one where they can't just cast the spell, they have to recite 10 minutes worth of verbiage for everything. Like you don't just "patronise" and there it is - it's actually a detailed incantation.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 06:55:26 PM
There is my issue with the time-turner thing. Why didn't they just use that to prevent Voldemort from ever coming to be?
I could be missing somethings here because I haven't read the books in the long time.
I believe the time-turner has limitations on how far it can go back or what can be changed.
Quote from: dallen68 on January 09, 2014, 06:57:10 PM
The one where they can't just cast the spell, they have to recite 10 minutes worth of verbiage for everything. Like you don't just "patronise" and there it is - it's actually a detailed incantation.
Avada blah blah blah
I get it now
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 09, 2014, 06:50:16 PM
It would be like us wanting to rule over ants.
Somewhere right now, a politician is reading this and thinking, "Hey, that's a good idea!"
Let's not give them ideas.
So Batman eventually gets a green lantern ring.
Who takes him down?
(http://averageguys.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picresized_1247989182_c3e076f24cf44ed1fe16474f068ed618.jpg)
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 07:09:05 PM
Somewhere right now, a politician is reading this and thinking, "Hey, that's a good idea!"
Let's not give them ideas.
So Batman eventually gets a green lantern ring.
Who takes him down?
(http://averageguys.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picresized_1247989182_c3e076f24cf44ed1fe16474f068ed618.jpg)
Angel Spawn?
Superman?
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 07:18:05 PM
Angel Spawn?
Superman?
Angel Spawn? Maybe if Batman doesn't have any prior intel on him.
Superman? Highly unlikely. Batman has worked with Superman long enough as part of the Justice League that Batman knows damn near everything there is to know about Superman. Add this with the fact that he now has close to equal firepower thanks to the Green Lantern ring, Superman's as good as dead.
Superman while wearing a miner's helmet with a yellow light bulb?
Quote from: dallen68 on January 09, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
Superman while wearing a miner's helmet with a yellow light bulb?
The ring might not do much, but you know Bats is packing that kryptonite on him just in case.
Batman's the type of guy that has backup plans for his backup plans for his backup plans.
In fact, in the comics, Batman has gone on record stating that he always carries a piece of kryptonite around just in case Superman ever snaps.
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 07:24:50 PM
The ring might not do much, but you know Bats is packing that kryptonite on him just in case.
Batman's the type of guy that has backup plans for his backup plans for his backup plans.
In fact, in the comics, Batman has gone on record stating that he always carries a piece of kryptonite around just in case Superman ever snaps.
I would be curious to know how much of the world's krypton supply is owned by Wayne Industries. (And what the relationship between Wayne Industries and LuthorCorp is).
Quote from: dallen68 on January 09, 2014, 07:42:48 PM
I would be curious to know how much of the world's krypton supply is owned by Wayne Industries. (And what the relationship between Wayne Industries and LuthorCorp is).
Funny enough, in one of the animated specials with Superman and Batman, Bruce Wayne actually had arranged business agreements with Lex Luthor. Unfortunately for Lex, Bruce caught wind of what he was actually doing and backed out.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 06:55:26 PM
There is my issue with the time-turner thing. Why didn't they just use that to prevent Voldemort from ever coming to be?
I could be missing somethings here because I haven't read the books in the long time.
It only goes back 6 hours.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 07:04:20 PM
Avada blah blah blah
I get it now
Voldemort could cast Avada Kadavra in half a second. Apparate to the other side of the foe before he shoots, before he can turn, he's dead. Wizards don't even have any way of blocking the Killing Curse; I doubt anyone else would, either.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 09, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
Voldemort could cast Avada Kadavra in half a second. Apparate to the other side of the foe before he shoots, before he can turn, he's dead. Wizards don't even have any way of blocking the Killing Curse; I doubt anyone else would, either.
At the end of Half-Blood Prince, it's stated (or demonstrated) that Severus Snape is the only wizard known to know the apparate incantation well enough to use it without using his full concentration and remembering a difficult incantation. In fact, it says, he can do it by "thinking" about it. Evidently, this information is important story wise... but back to the topic at hand: Unless your opponent "happens" to be Severus Snape, you have lots of warning they're about to apparate somewhere.
I suppose a similar argument can be made for Voldemort and the killing curse; but it doesn't actually say that one.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 09, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
Voldemort could cast Avada Kadavra in half a second. Apparate to the other side of the foe before he shoots, before he can turn, he's dead. Wizards don't even have any way of blocking the Killing Curse; I doubt anyone else would, either.
could that work against someone with super speed and super human reflexes?
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 07:09:05 PM
Somewhere right now, a politician is reading this and thinking, "Hey, that's a good idea!"
Let's not give them ideas.
So Batman eventually gets a green lantern ring.
Who takes him down?
(http://averageguys.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picresized_1247989182_c3e076f24cf44ed1fe16474f068ed618.jpg)
prime onemillion
and this guy
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Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
could that work against someone with super speed and super human reflexes?
According to OBD, Voldemort has standard human speed overall (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Lord+Voldemort), but his reaction speed might be slightly faster.
Voldemort's stats:
Name: Voldemort, Tom Marvolo Riddle
Origin: Harry Potter
Gender: Male
Classification: Wizard
Age: 71 at time of death.
Powers and Abilities: Mastery of magic, invisibility, flight, insta-kill spell, mindrape, teleportation, transmutation, magic, quasi-immortality (without regeneration, unless he uses special rituals), has a giant pet snake he can control with parseltongue which has a strong poisonous bite
Weaknesses: Arrogance, Thanatophobia(fear of death), needs his wand to perform strong magic, can be killed if all his horcruxes are destroyed, his soul is pretty much fucked from horcrux overuse
Destructive Capacity: City block level (can also use some spells which ignore conventional durability)
Range: Several dozen meters
Speed: Human level, but has instant teleportation. His reaction speed is considerably high as he was able to fight many high-level wizards at once.
Strength: Human level
Stamina: High
Standard Equipment: His Yew-wood Wand with a phoenix feather core, the elder wand, his pet giant snake called nagini
Intelligence: Has mastered dark magic well beyond what most wizards even know of and was able to organize and lead a war against the wizarding world and muggles twice.
Notable Attacks/Techniques:- Avada Kedavra: Fires a green bolt of light from his wand and instantly kills any living thing it hits. Basic magical defenses cannot stop it, but solid objects can.
- Crucio: Inflicts incredible pain upon any one victim.
- Imperio: Gives the user control over another person's body.
- Flight: Voldemort is capable of flying through the air unaided through use of dark magic.
- Transfiguration: Voldemort can change one item into another item.
- Parselmouth: Voldemort can speak to and control snakes.
- Materialization: Voldemort can make things appear out of thin air
.- Occlumency: Allows Voldemort to protect his mind from mental assualt.
- Legimency: Allows Voldemort to see into the mind of another and know what he/she is thinking.
- Apparition: Allows Voldemort to instantly teleport wherever he wants.
- Dementor Control: Allows voldemort to control dementors to his will
- Inferius: Allows Voldemort to enchant armies of zombies.
- Forcefield: Magic barrier estimated to be completely impenetrable by any means available to the Harry Potter universe.
- Immortality: By separating his soul into many pieces and storing them into objects called Horcruxes, Voldemort cannot be completely killed. If his body is destroyed, his soul will survive on until he can form another body. The Horcruxes must be destroyed before Voldemort can die.
Pretty impressive, but compared to other fictional wizards like Dr. Strange from Marvel Comics, he's on the punier side.
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
According to OBD, Voldemort has standard human speed overall (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Lord+Voldemort), but his reaction speed might be slightly faster.
Voldemort's stats:
Name: Voldemort, Tom Marvolo Riddle
Origin: Harry Potter
Gender: Male
Classification: Wizard
Age: 71 at time of death.
Powers and Abilities: Mastery of magic, invisibility, flight, insta-kill spell, mindrape, teleportation, transmutation, magic, quasi-immortality (without regeneration, unless he uses special rituals), has a giant pet snake he can control with parseltongue which has a strong poisonous bite
Weaknesses: Arrogance, Thanatophobia(fear of death), needs his wand to perform strong magic, can be killed if all his horcruxes are destroyed, his soul is pretty much fucked from horcrux overuse
Destructive Capacity: City block level (can also use some spells which ignore conventional durability)
Range: Several dozen meters
Speed: Human level, but has instant teleportation. His reaction speed is considerably high as he was able to fight many high-level wizards at once.
Strength: Human level
Stamina: High
Standard Equipment: His Yew-wood Wand with a phoenix feather core, the elder wand, his pet giant snake called nagini
Intelligence: Has mastered dark magic well beyond what most wizards even know of and was able to organize and lead a war against the wizarding world and muggles twice.
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
- Avada Kedavra: Fires a green bolt of light from his wand and instantly kills any living thing it hits. Basic magical defenses cannot stop it, but solid objects can.
- Crucio: Inflicts incredible pain upon any one victim.
- Imperio: Gives the user control over another person's body.
- Flight: Voldemort is capable of flying through the air unaided through use of dark magic.
- Transfiguration: Voldemort can change one item into another item.
- Parselmouth: Voldemort can speak to and control snakes.
- Materialization: Voldemort can make things appear out of thin air
.- Occlumency: Allows Voldemort to protect his mind from mental assualt.
- Legimency: Allows Voldemort to see into the mind of another and know what he/she is thinking.
- Apparition: Allows Voldemort to instantly teleport wherever he wants.
- Dementor Control: Allows voldemort to control dementors to his will
- Inferius: Allows Voldemort to enchant armies of zombies.
- Forcefield: Magic barrier estimated to be completely impenetrable by any means available to the Harry Potter universe.
- Immortality: By separating his soul into many pieces and storing them into objects called Horcruxes, Voldemort cannot be completely killed. If his body is destroyed, his soul will survive on until he can form another body. The Horcruxes must be destroyed before Voldemort can die.
Pretty impressive, but compared to other fictional wizards like Dr. Strange from Marvel Comics, he's on the punier side.
How would Voldy compare to Sauron?
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
How would Voldy compare to Sauron?
Funny enough, it says he loses to him.
For reference, here's Sauron's stats (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Sauron):
Name: Sauron
Origin: Lord of the Rings
Gender: Male
Classification: Maia/Dark Lord of Mordor
Age: As old as the universe itself
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman strength, speed, durability, reactions and stamina, magic, weather manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, energy shields, shapeshifting, energy manipulation, (implied) elemental manipulation, some form of soul manipulation (however this part is fairly speculatory), illusion creation, various others, skilled blacksmith, craftsman and strategist
Weaknesses: Nothing worth noting
Destructive Capacity: Town level+ with physical attacks (on par with Huan), potentially city level+ with magic and telekinesis (capable of indefinitely keeping Barad-Dur together just by existing)
Range: Extended melee range, several kilometers with telekinesis at least, continental with weather manipulation and telepathy
Speed: Hypersonic+ via powerscaling (Mach 20+ or so)
Durability: At least town level+ (required destruction of an island to kill his physical form), city+ level with shields
Lifting Strength: Superhuman
Striking Strength: Class TJ+*
Stamina: Superhuman
Standard Equipment: Mace, Morgul Knife, One Ring
Intelligence: Extremely skilled craftsman and blacksmith, master of deceit, tricked the Eregion Elves into forging the rings of power, turned Numenor upon the Valar
*Here's the listing for strength class (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Strength+2) according to OBD.
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Funny enough, it says he loses to him.
For reference, here's Sauron's stats (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Sauron):
Name: Sauron
Origin: Lord of the Rings
Gender: Male
Classification: Maia/Dark Lord of Mordor
Age: As old as the universe itself
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman strength, speed, durability, reactions and stamina, magic, weather manipulation, telekinesis, telepathy, energy shields, shapeshifting, energy manipulation, (implied) elemental manipulation, some form of soul manipulation (however this part is fairly speculatory), illusion creation, various others, skilled blacksmith, craftsman and strategist
Weaknesses: Nothing worth noting
Destructive Capacity: Town level+ with physical attacks (on par with Huan), potentially city level+ with magic and telekinesis (capable of indefinitely keeping Barad-Dur together just by existing)
Range: Extended melee range, several kilometers with telekinesis at least, continental with weather manipulation and telepathy
Speed: Hypersonic+ via powerscaling (Mach 20+ or so)
Durability: At least town level+ (required destruction of an island to kill his physical form), city+ level with shields
Lifting Strength: Superhuman
Striking Strength: Class TJ+*
Stamina: Superhuman
Standard Equipment: Mace, Morgul Knife, One Ring
Intelligence: Extremely skilled craftsman and blacksmith, master of deceit, tricked the Eregion Elves into forging the rings of power, turned Numenor upon the Valar
*Here's the listing for strength class (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Strength+2) according to OBD.
who loses to who?
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 09:16:17 PM
Voldemort is Orc food.
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/laughter.gif)
Hell, by comparison, they're both fodder to Dr. Strange (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Doctor+Strange+%28classic%29). Then again, so are most things.
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Name: Stephen Strange
Origin: Marvel Comics
Gender: Male
Classification: Human, Sorceror Supreme of the Earth dimension
Age: Unknown (likely 40s - 60s), over thousands of years old factoring in time travel
Powers and Abilities: Super speed, strength, flight, mastery of many forms of magic, including forms he developed himself, telepathy (both offensive and defensive), soul manipulation, time manipulation, teleportation, telekinesis, can survive in space and other hostile environments, regeneration (mid), can create forcefields, illusions, astral projection, intangibility, probability manipulation, psychometry, dimensional travel and manipulation, can travel between universes, shapeshifting, can summon many powerful cosmic beings and their power, energy and matter manipulation, automatic defenses, etc. Hell, name a power and this guy probably has it
Weaknesses: Weaker without his artifacts
Destructive Capacity: Multi star system - galaxy level. Universe level+ as Avatar of Eternity
Range: Depends on the circumstances, universal and cross - dimensional showings exist
Speed: Massively FTL (was sent to the edge of the universe by Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet and returned within seconds)
Durability: Above peak human, with magic amping and shields he can reach galaxy/dimension level
Strength: Peak human, can be amped to class 100 (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Strength) with magic
Stamina: Very high
Standard Equipment: Many magic artifacts, such as the Eye of Agamotto, which draws power from the cosmic being of the same name and can pierce through any illusion, gives him massively upgraded senses, open dimensional portals, and many other effects. The Cloak of Levitation allows him to fly (he can fly without it, but using the cloak doesn't consume any energy) He can also control the cloak remotely, like Surfer does with his board. The Wand of Watoomb, which can control "cosmic winds" allowing him to reach anywhere in the universe very quickly, or banish others to the far reaches of the universe, and the Ring of Full Power, which allows him to access all of his power while in his astral form. Has the Soul Gem, but will pretty much never use it.
Intelligence: Most powerful sorcerer in the universe, fought for thousands of years in a magical war, created his own forms of magic and mastered nearly every form of magic in existence, the leading authority on magic and mystical related subjects, highly skilled in HtH combat, a vast amount of experience battling nearly every conceivable type of foe
Notable Attacks/Techniques:
- The Crimson Bands of Cytorrak: This spell draws power from the god Cytorrak (the same entity that empowers Juggernaut). It creates a series of red rings (that can also take the form of a sphere) that home in on, bind, and constrict an opponent. This can easily hold class 100 characters.
- Power steal: Doctor Strange is an expert at stealing powers from others, he has even been able to drain the complete power of strong reality warpers.
- Astral form: By separating his spirit from his body, he can fight as a spirit, gaining permanent intangibility, invisibility (except to magic - sensitive methods of detection) and the ability to possess others. However, his physical body becomes vulnerable while doing this.
- The Images of Ikonn: A spell that reaches into an opponent's mind and confronts them with their own worst fears, regrets, and all other buried negative emotions. Was effective against Galactus.
- Shield of the Seraphim: A powerful magical shield that can be used to amplify Doctor Strange's defenses
- Montessi Formula: An anti-vampire spell. Works by changing the laws of physics to make it impossible for vampires to exist anywhere in the universe.
- The Seal of Morpheus: Sends an opponent into an eternal sleep
- Avatar of Eternity: Strange's most powerful technique. It requires a bit of meditation, but he can temporarily bind himself to the abstract being Eternity, the embodiment of all space throughout the universe. With this, he was able to defeat the abstract being Mistress Death
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 09, 2014, 08:37:38 PM
could that work against someone with super speed and super human reflexes?
With a well-placed Crucio, I'm sure it would.
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 09:16:17 PM
Voldemort is Orc food.
I think this is a big point in the story: Voldie isn't really all that strong as wizards go. He just studied lots of dark magics and prepared for the future. If he hadn't, the whole story wouldn't have happened because he would have been destroyed when Harry was an infant if not long before. He was able to do what he did because he united the Death Eaters but, the Order of the Phoenix notwithstanding, magical Britain was a snivelling bunch of political blowhards who couldn't even agree on right or left, much less unite against them.
Quote from: D on January 09, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
Hell, by comparison, they're both fodder to Dr. Strange (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Doctor+Strange+%28classic%29). Then again, so are most things.
Well, now you're just not being fair...
Should I just go ahead and bring The Doctor in?
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 06:37:02 AM
Well, now you're just not being fair...
Should I just go ahead and bring The Doctor in?
Go ahead. Dr. Strange wrecks him in too.
Here's the stats for The Doctor (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+The+Doctor) for comparison:
Name: The Doctor, Theta Sigma (ΘΣ), real name is The Dr. Who
Origin: Doctor Who
Gender: Male
Classification: Alien (Time Lord)
Age: At least 2000 (Is likely much older)
Powers and Abilities: Incredible intelligence and experience, can regenerate into a new body if fatally wounded, if he's within 15 hours of his regeneration cycle he can regrow severed body parts and instantly heal from more injuries, regeneration (mid-low, can regrow body parts in a few weeks), enhanced senses, low level telepathy, enhanced perception of the world such as feeling the Earth moving, can sense the presence of other Time Lords, can detect and is resistant to time alterations including time loops, and can remember people and things that were erased from time, resistant to physical possession and many forms of telepathy and mind control, olfactory ventriloquism, hypnosis, all of his different incarnations exist in his mind as alternate personalities, can resist, absorb, and expel many types of toxins and radiation, capable of telling the age, time period, and composition of materials and places by tasting or smelling them, can pick up and master physical skills (such as soccer) almost instantly, omnilingual, respiratory bypass system allows him to survive without oxygen for extended periods of time and filter out unpleasant smells
Weaknesses: A bit arrogant in some forms, believes himself unable to change various events in history or is unwilling to do so, and despises guns (Although not killing in general), can become physically and mentally weakened during the first few hours of his regeneration cycle, And apples are rubbish. Burning out both of his hearts at the same time or killing him before he has time to regenerate can bypass his regenerations, only has a regeneration cycle of 12 regenerations. the sonic screwdriver doesn't work on deadlocks or wood.
Destructive Capacity: Street level, Wall level with the eighth doctor's sonic and war/10/11's combined, sometimes much higher during regeneration: 10's regeneration took down the tardis (which is HUGE on the inside), 11's regeneration destroyed a dalek ship (which generally can survive planet-destroying blasts)
Range: Depends what equipment he is using
Speed: Human level, although his constant running down corridors for 2000 years might have helped that a bit. His reactions are superhuman.
Durability: Seems to be resistant to damage only a bit more than a normal human, regeneration allows him to survive things humans couldn't. Is extremely resistant to radiation and various chemicals and poison. Has survived getting struck by lightning multiple times, falling several dozen meters, temperatures up to -200 degrees (likely Celsius but never stated) for 10 seconds, can survive without oxygen for several minutes. Regeneration makes him harder to kill, and directly after regeneration he can regrow hands and such.
Strength: Above average human level
Stamina: Peak human
Standard Equipment: A TARDIS (Time and Relative Dimension in Space), or time/space machine. The TARDIS, due to its time manipulation, is VERY hax (Not to mention it can destroy the multiverse by blowing up). Psychic Paper shows whatever the person who holds it wants it to say (it works on almost everyone, as well as computers). Sonic Screwdriver can destroy and disable machines, lock and unlock things that are not deadlocked or wood, and be used as a repair tool (it has a psychic interface and is controlled by thought). His jacket has dimensionally transcendental pockets, allowing them to have more space on the inside than on the outside like the TARDIS. He has a pair of shades that give the user infrared/thermal imaging vision. Jelly babies are delicious and brainy specs make him look smart. Also, bow tie. Fez and/or stetson (cowboy hat) optional.
Intelligence: Over 2000 years of experience allows him to know insane amounts of things about the universe, including every known language and various technologies. Expert knowledge on genetic engineering. Has practically entire history books of knowledge in his brain for Earth. His own intelligence is enormous; he has created a bomb that could destroy all life on one surface of the Earth in an hour out of trash, rivaling Tony Stark and MacGyver. In one (canon) EU novel he outsmarted an AI from a race that were clear expys of The Culture. He has on several encounters and different incarnations been able to defeat both Eternals and Guardians of Time, on one occasion turning a group of them mortal. Overall, handing him preparation for a match, even only an hour's worth, is like handing Batman any sort of prep and the utility belt combined. He also has a photographic memory (In his Eleventh incarnation). His kinesthetic abilities are also superhuman, having been able to pick up and learn all rules and techniques of soccer, becoming professional level about thirty seconds after he's been introduced to it. He is also a highly skilled swordsman, skilled with a crossbow, as well as skilled in hand-to-hand combat.
Notable Attacks/Techniques:- The Delta Wave: With prep time, depending on the equipment accessible, he can broadcast a wave that will from put to sleep to kill anyone with an organic brain. Range can go from personal to at least planetary
- Memory Dump: The Doctor can instantly download or upload any information he likes with a headbutt, which he considers to be vastly unpleasant. Considering this is the doctor's mind, this could be a potentially devastating technique as humans can't handle a Gallifreyan's psyche very well.
- Dance: He dances. Somewhat.
- The Fury of a Time Lord:
Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 07:42:37 AM
Go ahead. Dr. Strange wrecks him in too.
Yeah, doubt it. Witness their main fallacy:
QuoteDestructive Capacity: Street level, Wall level with the eighth doctor's sonic and war/10/11's combined, sometimes much higher during regeneration: 10's regeneration took down the tardis (which is HUGE on the inside), 11's regeneration destroyed a dalek ship (which generally can survive planet-destroying blasts)
This is NOT his destructive capacity. It's what he's WILLINGLY done. There's a difference between what he's CAPABLE of doing and merely what he's had to resort to in the past. Many times during the show the Doctor has shown fear over what could happen if he goes too far. And I notice they conveniently omitted wiping out (well, almost) the two most advanced races in the universe (the Daleks and the Time Lords).
Besides, even if Doctor Strange were to become an all-powerful destroyer of the universe, well, the Doctor's dealt with PLENTY of those before! Just another boring day for him.
But considering they actually said, "real name is The Dr. Who," I think we can write off these guys as completely clueless!
Oh, and by the way: "only has a regeneration cycle of 12 regenerations." Except we just saw regeneration #13! NEVER tell the Doctor the rules!
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
But considering they actually said, "real name is The Dr. Who," I think we can write off these guys as completely clueless!
The line for his real name on the Battledome wiki struck me as a bit off. I thought his real name--him being an alien race called a Time Lord and all--was something unpronounceable and has people asking, "Doctor Who?" (hence the name of the franchise). So most people just call him "The Doctor."
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 10:19:03 AMwiping out (well, almost) the two most advanced races in the universe (the Daleks and the Time Lords).
A bit off topic but is this guy supposed to be the the hero or the villain of this series? Even in the video I saw of his Time Lord's Fury:
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to me he just comes off as a smug asshole with little regard for human life, much less freedom or liberty. And this line of yours kinda makes him out as a mass murderer.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 10:19:03 AM
Yeah, doubt it. Witness their main fallacy:
This is NOT his destructive capacity. It's what he's WILLINGLY done. There's a difference between what he's CAPABLE of doing and merely what he's had to resort to in the past. Many times during the show the Doctor has shown fear over what could happen if he goes too far. And I notice they conveniently omitted wiping out (well, almost) the two most advanced races in the universe (the Daleks and the Time Lords).
Besides, even if Doctor Strange were to become an all-powerful destroyer of the universe, well, the Doctor's dealt with PLENTY of those before! Just another boring day for him.
But considering they actually said, "real name is The Dr. Who," I think we can write off these guys as completely clueless!
Unless the Doctor pulls some faster than light speed stuff, regardless of whether or not he claims to be more powerful than shown is irrelevant. The fact is, Dr. Strange could just bind him with The Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, which is strong enough to restrain someone Class 100 level physical strength characters (strong enough to lift a tank sized mass) then simply put him to sleep forever with The Seal of Morpheus. If he didn't want to make him sleep, he could also completely screw with his mind by using The Images of Ikonn.
Unless you got some video evidence of The Doctor performing physical feats stronger than that, he's not even getting out of the binds.
Only way The Doctor is coming through on this one is if he's already in the Tardis, which it does say has universe+ level destructive capacity. (http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Vehicle+Profile+-+The+Doctor%27s+TARDIS)
Quote from: T dog on January 10, 2014, 10:36:22 AM
The line for his real name on the Battledome wiki struck me as a bit off. I thought his real name--him being an alien race called a Time Lord and all--was something unpronounceable and has people asking, "Doctor Who?" (hence the name of the franchise). So most people just call him "The Doctor."
Actually, his name is a huge secret, and an entire religious order exists to prevent the secret from becoming known. In the whole wide universe, now that the Time Lords are gone, the only one known to know his real name is River Song, and that's only because he married her.
QuoteA bit off topic but is this guy supposed to be the the hero or the villain of this series? Even in the video I saw of his Time Lord's Fury:
That was the thing about Ten: no second chances. All the Family of Blood had to do was live out their short life. But no, they had to follow the Doctor and start killing people. With Ten, you did NOT pass up the one and only chance he gave you, because after that he wouldn't hold back. Yes, he's the hero, but he could so easily become the villain with scarily little prodding in the wrong way.
As Eleven once remarked, when Madame Kovarian told him she wasn't afraid of him, because he's a good man and has too many rules, "Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."
And then, of course, when House said, "Fear me! I killed hundreds of Time Lords!" He simply replied: "Fear ME: I killed ALL of them!"
Quoteto me he just comes off as a smug asshole with little regard for human life, much less freedom or liberty. And this line of yours kinda makes him out as a mass murderer.
Just the opposite: he has compassion for all living things, and hates guns and war and tyranny. I've lost count of the number of oppressive governments he's helped to overthrow. But when you've lived for over a thousand years, your perspective changes. This is why he generally travels around with a young female human companion: he needs a human to humanize him, a female to feminize him, and youth to keep him from being too old. They've done episodes exploring what he's like when he doesn't have a human companion; it generally isn't good.
Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 10:44:26 AMUnless the Doctor pulls some faster than light speed stuff,
Child's play to a Time Lord.
QuoteThe fact is, Dr. Strange could just bind him with The Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, which is strong enough to restrain someone Class 100 level physical strength characters
The Pandorica was built to be able to hold even the most dangerous being in the universe forever. It withstood an exploding TARDIS. And the Doctor STILL got out of it.
Quote(strong enough to lift a tank sized mass) then simply put him to sleep forever with The Seal of Morpheus. If he didn't want to make him sleep, he could also completely screw with his mind by using The Images of Ikonn.
After dealing with the Akhaten parasite god and the Dream Lord, not to mention the Great Intelligence himself, I'd say, been there, done that.
QuoteUnless you got some video evidence of The Doctor performing physical feats stronger than that, he's not even getting out of the binds.
Well, let's see...one time the ENTIRE UNIVERSE ENDED, for all time, every sun went supernova at every point in history, and the Doctor STILL got out of it and brought it back.
And don't ever discount his cleverness. The sonic screwdriver may not work on wood, but that didn't stop him using it to defeat a wooden Cyberman!
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 11:26:11 AM
And then, of course, when House said, "Fear me! I killed hundreds of Time Lords!" He simply replied: "Fear ME: I killed ALL of them!"
Well, let's see...one time the ENTIRE UNIVERSE ENDED, for all time, every sun went supernova at every point in history, and the Doctor STILL got out of it and brought it back.
Is he like a super time lord or something given he was able to get rid of the rest of his species? Also, why did he have to kill the rest of them off? Were they all evil or something? I ask because that kinda clashes with the "compassion for all living things" deal. I don't mind not counting the Daleks who seem to me just robots and who IIRC are evil conquerors or something.
Quote from: T dog on January 10, 2014, 11:57:30 AM
Is he like a super time lord or something given he was able to get rid of the rest of his species? Also, why did he have to kill the rest of them off?
Long story, that I can't get into without spoiling it for those who haven't seen the 50th Anniversary special.
Short version: the Daleks were going to destroy all creation and become the only remaining life form, and the Time Lords were going to destroy all creation and become beings of pure thought.
QuoteWere they all evil or something? I ask because that kinda clashes with the "compassion for all living things" deal.
I can't answer any more without spoiling the 50th.
QuoteI don't mind not counting the Daleks who seem to me just robots and who IIRC are evil conquerors or something.
They're not robots; they're mutants who need the metal casing to survive. They're highly intelligent beings who were genetically designed to hate all other life forms and exterminate them.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 12:55:01 PM
Long story, that I can't get into without spoiling it for those who haven't seen the 50th Anniversary special.
Short version: the Daleks were going to destroy all creation and become the only remaining life form, and the Time Lords were going to destroy all creation and become beings of pure thought.
I can't answer any more without spoiling the 50th.
They're not robots; they're mutants who need the metal casing to survive. They're highly intelligent beings who were genetically designed to hate all other life forms and exterminate them.
*shrugs* I was planning on checking the series out if only to see what all the hoopla is about. Spoilers never really bothered me. And I think D might want them, if only to help with the disagreement. :P
That would explain the "EXTERMINATE" memes with them.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 11:26:11 AMChild's play to a Time Lord.
The Pandorica was built to be able to hold even the most dangerous being in the universe forever. It withstood an exploding TARDIS. And the Doctor STILL got out of it.
After dealing with the Akhaten parasite god and the Dream Lord, not to mention the Great Intelligence himself, I'd say, been there, done that.
Well, let's see...one time the ENTIRE UNIVERSE ENDED, for all time, every sun went supernova at every point in history, and the Doctor STILL got out of it and brought it back.
And don't ever discount his cleverness. The sonic screwdriver may not work on wood, but that didn't stop him using it to defeat a wooden Cyberman!
Have any actual episodes or clips of reference? Did he do any of the strength feats on his own or were they the doing of the Tardis?
Also, as far as Dr. Strange's powers go, they get even more ridiculous. Apparently he changed the laws of physics so vampires couldn't even exist, and apparently has erased people from ever existing at all. For instance, in this scene where he actually erased an entire dimension out of existence because he deemed it too horrible.
(http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/strange%20tales%2051.jpg)
Here's some other Strange feats from comics:
Taking away Silver Surfer's powers:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg158/scaled.php?server=158&filename=bubbleqt3.jpg&res=landing)
Also able to stop time. Not that this is anything in particular when it comes to Time Lords, but still figured it was worth mentioning:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg203/scaled.php?server=203&filename=timerever12fl.jpg&res=landing)
After Dr. Strange pissed off Eternity, Eternity summoned The Ancient One to attack Dr. Strange. Dr. Strange manipulated time to age The Ancient One to the point where he would remember Dr. Strange and stopped fighting him:
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg293/scaled.php?server=293&filename=drstrangesorcerersupre5414hh2.jpg&res=landing)
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg180/scaled.php?server=180&filename=drstrangesorcerersupre5415he5.jpg&res=landing)
You said Dr. Who survived supernovas. Did he survive them on his own or with the help of the Tardis? I only ask because Strange can throw energy blasts with the power of a supernova casually.
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg219/scaled.php?server=219&filename=drstrange64vf8.jpg&res=landing)
Here's Dr. Strange using Images of Ikkon on Galactus which leaves him powerless.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50100/1154140-galactusbeatdown1_600x890.jpg)
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50100/1154139-galactusbeatdown4_597x890.jpg)
Here's Dr. Strange seeing something go down in another dimension and quickly putting a stop to it.
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg348/scaled.php?server=348&filename=pimp12or.jpg&res=landing)
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg26/scaled.php?server=26&filename=pimp25uk.jpg&res=landing)
Like I said before, it matters whether or not we're talking about with or without the Tardis.
Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 01:32:43 PM
Have any actual episodes or clips of reference? Did he do any of the strength feats on his own or were they the doing of the Tardis?
He actually didn't use the TARDIS for any of them. He used the a vortex manipulator to timey-wimey his way out of the Pandorica and reboot the universe (The Big Bang), he didn't use the TARDIS against the parasite god (The Rings of Akhaten), the TARDIS was just a setting with the Dream Lord (Amy's Choice), and the only thing he used against the wooden Cyberman was his wits and a screwdriver that doesn't work on wood.
Oh, and I forgot to mention: he DIED at Trenzalore. As in, he visited his own remains and they were confirmed his (The Name of the Doctor). Yet when he actually went to Trenzalore (The Time of the Doctor), he just decided to change things and regenerate into Peter Capaldi. Without the TARDIS. (Although he did use a crack in space-time that was connected to [SPOILERS!].)
Quoteand apparently has erased people from ever existing at all.
Yep, that happened, too. Of course, even The Inquisitor on Red Dwarf could do that and he was just a rogue android.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 06:32:26 AM
With a well-placed Crucio, I'm sure it would.
I don't know? They are pretty tough.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 10, 2014, 03:27:02 PM
I don't know? They are pretty tough.
So's the Cruciatus Curse. The pain is worse than "one thousand white-hot knives, boring into the skin," and prolonged use can cause permanent mental injury, implying that it works directly on the pain centers of the brain. And again, nothing the wizards have can block it or defend against it. It can even shatter solid objects.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
So's the Cruciatus Curse. The pain is worse than "one thousand white-hot knives, boring into the skin," and prolonged use can cause permanent mental injury, implying that it works directly on the pain centers of the brain. And again, nothing the wizards have can block it or defend against it. It can even shatter solid objects.
That might sound painful to humans but remember Superman survived being thrown into molten lava and even ingesting it. So by this it's obvious that Kryptonian pain tolerance is WAY BEYOND that of a normal human.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 10, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
So's the Cruciatus Curse. The pain is worse than "one thousand white-hot knives, boring into the skin," and prolonged use can cause permanent mental injury, implying that it works directly on the pain centers of the brain. And again, nothing the wizards have can block it or defend against it. It can even shatter solid objects.
'Injury' doesn't begin to describe what prolonged exposure to a Crucio can do. Nigel's parents were rendered irreversibly insane by it, and this is in the face of the ability to selectively alter or remove memory and essentially unlimited regenerative medicine.
Quote from: evensgrey on January 10, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
'Injury' doesn't begin to describe what prolonged exposure to a Crucio can do. Nigel's parents were rendered irreversibly insane by it, and this is in the face of the ability to selectively alter or remove memory and essentially unlimited regenerative medicine.
I think you mean Neville.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 10, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
That might sound painful to humans but remember Superman survived being thrown into molten lava and even ingesting it.
Because of the protection he gets from his powers. My theory is that Crucio bypasses all of that and goes directly to his brain. Besides, he's been portrayed as being in pain several times in the comics.
Quote from: evensgrey on January 10, 2014, 03:53:36 PM
'Injury' doesn't begin to describe what prolonged exposure to a Crucio can do. Nigel's parents were rendered irreversibly insane by it, and this is in the face of the ability to selectively alter or remove memory and essentially unlimited regenerative medicine.
Wizards can do that, too, with memory charms.
QuoteBecause of the protection he gets from his powers. My theory is that Crucio bypasses all of that and goes directly to his brain. Besides, he's been portrayed as being in pain several times in the comics.
That is just speculation. But then again I guess most these versus threads are about speculating
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 10, 2014, 06:26:27 PM
That is just speculation. But then again I guess most these versus threads are about speculating
Kind of, unless you actually use source material to back up your claims about what kind of powers they have or feats they've accomplished.
Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
Kind of, unless you actually use source material to back up your claims about what kind of powers they have or feats they've accomplished.
yeah I suppose
what do you guys think about these guys?
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Kain
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Raziel
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 10, 2014, 06:33:42 PM
yeah I suppose
what do you guys think about these guys?
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Kain
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Raziel
Man, it's been FOREVER since I played Soul Reaver II or Legacy of Kain 2.
I have to play those games again.
As far as their standing in Battledome, probably do well against basic super characters, but once you get into anything hyperspeed and higher strength characters and beyond, they become nothing but fodder.
Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 07:06:25 PM
Man, it's been FOREVER since I played Soul Reaver II or Legacy of Kain 2.
I have to play those games again.
As far as their standing in Battledome, probably do well against basic super characters, but once you get into anything hyperspeed and higher strength characters and beyond, they become nothing but fodder.
Raziel can't really die, He just goes into the spirit realm eat some souls and comes back.
One thing is for sure and it's that they put the Twilight saga to shame.
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Quote from: D on January 10, 2014, 06:30:36 PM
Kind of, unless you actually use source material to back up your claims about what kind of powers they have or feats they've accomplished.
I seem to recall it being canon that Superman has only base human resistance to magic (essentially, none at all). Kryptonite was so rare post-Crisis (at one time, the entire quantity on Earth was just enough to make one small stone in a ring Lex Luthor wore until the effects of the radiation forced him to have the hand amputated) that having something else that the Man of Steel was vulnerable to was an absolute necessity. (After all, a person whom is absolutely invincible is also absolutely boring to read about, because he's just going to go in and punch the villain down effortlessly. Supes even had a speech at Darkseid once where he expressed appreciation for Darkseid showing up because now he finally had someone he could really wail on, since from his point of view everything on Earth might as well be made of cardboard.)
Quote from: evensgrey on January 11, 2014, 09:44:59 AM
I seem to recall it being canon that Superman has only base human resistance to magic (essentially, none at all). Kryptonite was so rare post-Crisis (at one time, the entire quantity on Earth was just enough to make one small stone in a ring Lex Luthor wore until the effects of the radiation forced him to have the hand amputated) that having something else that the Man of Steel was vulnerable to was an absolute necessity. (After all, a person whom is absolutely invincible is also absolutely boring to read about, because he's just going to go in and punch the villain down effortlessly. Supes even had a speech at Darkseid once where he expressed appreciation for Darkseid showing up because now he finally had someone he could really wail on, since from his point of view everything on Earth might as well be made of cardboard.)
Yeah, Superman is basically the same of resistance to magic as your average human. That's one of the main reasons why if Superman and Shazam/Captain Marvel fight, Captain Marvel tends to win. That being said, Captain Marvel also has the speed and power to keep up with Superman in the first place. Even if a wizard like someone from Harry Potter can perform magic, it doesn't mean they necessarily have the speed to cast a spell fast enough before Superman smashes their face in or gives them a heat vision induced lobotomy.
Quote from: D on January 11, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
gives them a heat vision induced lobotomy.
Like that one unfortunate psychic dude.
Quote from: D on January 11, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
Yeah, Superman is basically the same of resistance to magic as your average human. That's one of the main reasons why if Superman and Shazam/Captain Marvel fight, Captain Marvel tends to win. That being said, Captain Marvel also has the speed and power to keep up with Superman in the first place. Even if a wizard like someone from Harry Potter can perform magic, it doesn't mean they necessarily have the speed to cast a spell fast enough before Superman smashes their face in or gives them a heat vision induced lobotomy.
Heck I bet that Shang Tsung could beat the crap out of most of the Harry Potter wizards.
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Shang+Tsung
Quote from: D on January 11, 2014, 11:39:02 AM
Yeah, Superman is basically the same of resistance to magic as your average human. That's one of the main reasons why if Superman and Shazam/Captain Marvel fight, Captain Marvel tends to win. That being said, Captain Marvel also has the speed and power to keep up with Superman in the first place. Even if a wizard like someone from Harry Potter can perform magic, it doesn't mean they necessarily have the speed to cast a spell fast enough before Superman smashes their face in or gives them a heat vision induced lobotomy.
So, basically, one well-placed Avada Kedavra and he's gone. The Flash would be tougher; it's hard to hit a moving target...
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 11, 2014, 01:54:10 PM
Heck I bet that Shang Tsung could beat the crap out of most of the Harry Potter wizards.
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Shang+Tsung
I dunno; judging solely by that page he doesn't seem to have any skills that Voldemort lacks. And Voldie doesn't have to "constantly steal souls to maintain his power." Sic the Dementors on him and he's done for!
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 11, 2014, 02:15:04 PM
So, basically, one well-placed Avada Kedavra and he's gone. The Flash would be tougher; it's hard to hit a moving target...
If we're talking comic Superman, it's going to be a little more difficult than that.
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This isn't even his fastest speed. Superman is massively faster than the speed of light and has fought villains across the entire cosmos while moving at that speed.
And yes, Superman has managed to keep up with and catch Flash before.
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Like I said. Only reason Shazam manages to beat him is because Shazam can keep up.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 11, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
I dunno; judging solely by that page he doesn't seem to have any skills that Voldemort lacks. And Voldie doesn't have to "constantly steal souls to maintain his power." Sic the Dementors on him and he's done for!
But does Voldemort have any magic that can protect against magic that attacks your soul directly. judging from the movie when a host body is destroyed it has to fly out. If Voldemort's body is destroyed his soul has to fly out he then Shang tsung can absorb him.
Quote from: D on January 11, 2014, 02:36:29 PM
If we're talking comic Superman, it's going to be a little more difficult than that.
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This isn't even his fastest speed. Superman is massively faster than the speed of light and has fought villains across the entire cosmos while moving at that speed.
And yes, Superman has managed to keep up with and catch Flash before.
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Like I said. Only reason Shazam manages to beat him is because Shazam can keep up.
Top speed, perhaps, but from what I've seen Superman takes longer to accelerate, which is the important thing in this context.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 11, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
But does Voldemort have any magic that can protect against magic that attacks your soul directly.
Yep, he had some spares lying around (horcruxes).
QuoteIf Voldemort's body is destroyed his soul has to fly out he then Shang tsung can absorb him.
And become another Voldie horcrux the way Harry inadvertently did.
Quote from: MrBogosity on January 11, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
Yep, he had some spares lying around (horcruxes).
And become another Voldie horcrux the way Harry inadvertently did.
This might not work because Shang Tsung has THOUSANDS of souls in him and he is also one of the best sorcerer/fighter in Outworld. I'm pretty sure he has a work around that.
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 11, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
This might not work because Shang Tsung has THOUSANDS of souls in him and he is also one of the best sorcerer/fighter in Outworld. I'm pretty sure he has a work around that.
There was a similar argument made about a fight between M. Bision and Shao Kahn.
In the end, Kahn's experience in absorbing souls was just too much for M. Bison if he attempted to take over his body.
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Heres another one I have been wondering about
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) vs Ghost Rider
Quote from: Skm1091 on January 16, 2014, 04:13:21 PM
Heres another one I have been wondering about
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) vs Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider is FAR stronger than Scorpion, but Scorpion has faster movement speed, but even then Ghost Rider has reaction speeds that are faster than Scorpion can move. If Ghost Rider can manage to grab Scorpion and hit him with a Penance Stare, Scorpion is absolutely done. That being said, it's also going to take a lot more than Scorpion can dish out to take out Ghost Rider.
Ghost Rider actually managed to tank a hit from World War Hulk. World War Hulk's striking strength was about on par with being able to destroy a planet the size of Jupiter with a single punch.
Quote from: D on January 16, 2014, 04:36:30 PM
Ghost Rider is FAR stronger than Scorpion, but Scorpion has faster movement speed, but even then Ghost Rider has reaction speeds that are faster than Scorpion can move. If Ghost Rider can manage to grab Scorpion and hit him with a Penance Stare, Scorpion is absolutely done. That being said, it's also going to take a lot more than Scorpion can dish out to take out Ghost Rider.
Ghost Rider actually managed to tank a hit from World War Hulk. World War Hulk's striking strength was about on par with being able to destroy a planet the size of Jupiter with a single punch.
I don't know about that: Scorpion can disappear into hell, and engage in hit and run tactics. This could be negated by Ghost riders intelligence--you know what, yeah, I agree with you.
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on January 16, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
I don't know about that: Scorpion can disappear into hell, and engage in hit and run tactics. This could be negated by Ghost riders intelligence--you know what, yeah, I agree with you.
Well like I said, Ghost Rider has reaction speeds that are faster than Scorpion's movement speeds. Only way he's hurting Ghost Rider is if he somehow gained dimensional attacks.