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Top 10 favorite collectivist arguments

Started by Lord T Hawkeye, January 12, 2010, 12:56:23 PM

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January 14, 2010, 08:58:43 PM #30
Well it looks nice but it bites with my new wallpaper...made out of ONE BOLIVAR BILLS!
January 16, 2010, 09:56:36 AM #31
Okay, so far we got...

"People are evil"

"Who'll build the roads?"

"Guns increase crime rates"

"Healthcare is a right!"

"FDR saved the U.S. from The Great Depression"

"Without anti-discrimination laws, nobody would hire minorites/women/disabled people/etc"

"Without government welfare, the poor would starve to death."

"Without airport security, the war on terror, and our interventionist foreign policy, the terrorists would kill all of us!"

"Fiat currency may be inherently inflation, but a gold standard is inherently deflationary!  So it's pick your poison."

"The free market is an idealistic crock, just like communism."

I'll work through these and pick my fav 10.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
January 16, 2010, 10:04:45 AM #32 Last Edit: January 16, 2010, 10:12:31 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
1. "People are evil [and/or stupid]."

2. "Who'll build the roads?"

3. "Guns increase crime rates."

4. "Healthcare is a right!"

5. "FDR saved the U.S. from The Great Depression."

6. "Without anti-discrimination laws, nobody would hire minorities/women/disabled people/etc."

7. "Without government welfare, the poor would starve to death."

8. "Without airport security, the war on terror and our interventionist foreign policy, the terrorists would kill us all!"

9. "Fiat currency may be inherently inflationary, but a gold standard is inherently deflationary!  So it's pick your poison."

10. "The free market is an idealistic crock, just like communism."

Those ARE ten, Lord T Hawkeye. :P

Also, the 9th one should be "inflationary" not "inflation" that was a typo.  My bad.

I also proofread them (my own included) and added punctuation on the ones lacking it. :P
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
January 16, 2010, 10:44:45 AM #33
As for the idea that people are evil.
This video: [yt]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gmuOW6qGbx4&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gmuOW6qGbx4&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/yt]

Might be of use to you. :)

This one too:  [yt]<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/X2dHFaclpv4&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/X2dHFaclpv4&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>[/yt]

I'd watch the first video first, and include it in your rebuttal to the first one. :)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
February 02, 2010, 03:39:00 AM #34
Finally got around to doing it.  Hope Shane doesn't mind I linked a lot of his vids in it.

http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/30065331/#comments
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
February 02, 2010, 05:45:22 AM #35
You should turn that in to a YouTube video.
February 02, 2010, 01:11:34 PM #36
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 02, 2010, 03:39:00 AM
Finally got around to doing it.  Hope Shane doesn't mind I linked a lot of his vids in it.

http://lordthawkeye.deviantart.com/journal/30065331/#comments

Looks like you already have a detractor in the comments of said deviation. Even if I disagreed with you, I'd find evidence to present. More incredulity with nothing to back it up.
"Did you know that the hole's only natural enemy is the pile?"
"Dead Poets Society has destroyed a generation of educators."
  --The Simpsons, "Special Edna"
February 02, 2010, 01:20:50 PM #37
He's being sarcastic.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
February 02, 2010, 01:57:22 PM #38
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on February 02, 2010, 01:20:50 PM
He's being sarcastic.
I just read the comment you both were talking about.
It was fucking hilarious.
As for valvatica's reaction.  It seems that Poe's Law has stuck again.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
February 02, 2010, 05:00:22 PM #39
Dammit, I've been Poe'd again!
"Did you know that the hole's only natural enemy is the pile?"
"Dead Poets Society has destroyed a generation of educators."
  --The Simpsons, "Special Edna"
February 02, 2010, 05:27:14 PM #40
Quote from: valvatica on February 02, 2010, 05:00:22 PM
Dammit, I've been Poe'd again!

Or maybe it's "Poe'nd"?

I'm sorry. I'll hit myself now.
February 19, 2010, 04:26:51 PM #41
Here's an honorary #11:

"The free market supports no laws or restrictions whatsoever.  If you want to kill your mom, in a free market you could do it."
Except we aren't supporting Anomie.
A free market means "in the absence of the initiation of force, fraud and duress".
Funny how they always leave out that extremely important detail.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
February 21, 2010, 10:43:13 AM #42
"Taxation is legitimate"
"Love it or leave it"
"The government cares"
"Democracy is good" When combined with people are evil so we need a government
"Reagan caused the current financial crises through his deregulation"
"You have a duty to help others" when defending the current welfare system
"Capitalism is naturally exploitative"
"You or anyone else is evil and greedy for wanting a profit"
"Without minimum wage and government regulations we would all work for pennies a day in a coalmine without pants on" Somthing along these lines.
"We would all be uneducated idiots without 12 years of manditory public education"
"People are stupid and need to be told what to do with thier money" (always stops at a certian point for some reason, never taken to its logical outcome of total state control"
Any scentence including the word "We" when refering to a nation.
That everyone who has advocated the free market system was just "Working for themselves"
"Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?"
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