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[MrBogosity]

For those who haven't clicked on the link--warning epic fails...

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And THAT is why Appeal to Common Sense is a fallacy.

[MrBogosity]

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Incidentally, this amendment would spread the following fail nationwide (note: the video itself is NOT a fail):

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[AnCap Dave]

[tnu]

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so many classic fallacies  in this video. the comments are even worse.

[MrBogosity]

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so many classic fallacies  in this video. the comments are even worse.

Oh FSM, he even pulled out the "A private fire department sat and watched the house burn" when it was ABSOLUTELY a GOVERNMENT department!

[Travis Retriever]

@Maher--So donate your own money to help them then, you hypocritical fucktard.

[BlameThe1st]

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His three fail-tastic points that the "free market" does not work:

1) Rationing. (We did it because of WAR. War seems to justify everything! How very statist!)

2) Wal-mart gives free water to hurricane survivors and victims. (But I thought evil, greedy companies didn't care about the poor?)

3) Big banks support bailouts and subsidies. (You mean to tell me big business hates playing on a fair playing field such as the free market and would rather profit by sucking the teat of the state? No! Inconceivable!)

Yeah, this moment of clarity is as clear as a brick wall in a heavy fog!

[tnu]

Oh FSM, he even pulled out the "A private fire department sat and watched the house burn" when it was ABSOLUTELY a GOVERNMENT department!

FSM?

1) Rationing. (We did it because of WAR. War seems to justify everything! How very statist!)

By that logic what justifies war?

Inconceivable!

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. (Sorry about that I had to.)

[dallen68]

FSM?

Flying Spaghetti Monster

By that logic what justifies war?

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. (Sorry about that I had to.)

[Ibrahim90]

@Mayer--So donate your own money to help them then, you hypocritical fucktard.

I'm surprised the elderly aren't being helped by their children: Dad helped his dad, and I am now (since I've been employed), helping him. It's how it is done in the Arab world, since before Islam, right up till the present. So yes, you can do both: you just need a sense of responsibility to your parents. If no children exist, nephews and relatives, and if not them, friends, and if not them, charity. there's always someone who can and wants to help. That's one thing I've learned this last year and a half.

[Travis Retriever]

I'm surprised the elderly aren't being helped by their children: Dad helped his dad, and I am now (since I've been employed), helping him. It's how it is done in the Arab world, since before Islam, right up till the present. So yes, you can do both: you just need a sense of responsibility to your parents. If no children exist, nephews and relatives, and if not them, friends, and if not them, charity. there's always someone who can and wants to help. That's one thing I've learned this last year and a half.

Well for one, according to the US Census, the 65 years old and older?  Richest demographic in America by age.   While the younger are poorer.  Something made worse by Social Security...Kinda takes the will to help out when you've got a gun to your head, no?

That's not to say that there aren't poor seniors who really do need help, but to act like without minimum wage/social security/etc they'd all starve in the streets like Maher is doing is just dumb.

And yes, that's more or less how it works in my family too.

[Travis Retriever]

And THAT is why Appeal to Common Sense is a fallacy.

You think that's bad?  Check out all the memes to the side (there's a meme tab/section of the site too).  Holy shit.

[nilecroc]

FSM?

By that logic what justifies war?

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. (Sorry about that I had to.)

Pokemon being banned for one.

[nilecroc]

And how do we know this to be true?  The guy's own statement?  What about this statment?

Also included is a letter from a certified psychologist explaining that there is currently "no risk assessment instruments developed to estimate risk for future sexual offending for individuals possessing sexual images in Manga or Anime." Handley's original psychological assessment determined that Handley, "although honest with what he reported, was not disclosing enough to gain a complete picture of the nature and extent of [his] sexual deviancy ... The main finding from the testing results is that Mr. Handley produced a guarded, defensive, and evasive profile. His test taking behavior suggests there is likely more to know about him than he is willing to disclose at this time."

I saw a lot of other red flags about this guy in the article:

Christopher Handley, the Iowa man on trial for possessing manga "drawings of children being sexually abused," was sentenced on Thursday to six months in prison.

Handley admitted he searched the Internet for manga with stories involving the sexual abuse of minors.

Handley said he then explored materials of a more adult nature as the internet became popular. His interests then "evolved" into a "fascination for images of young girls engaged in sexual activity."

According to the prosecution's files, Handley "spent the past 17 years collecting over a thousand works of manga from Japan of a sexual nature, using images of young girls in such books as a substitute for sex."

Then there are the materials themselves:


Mikansei Seifuku Shōjo (Unfinished School Girl) by Yuki Tamachi (LE Comics)

I [Heart] Doll by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)

Kemono for ESSENTIAL 3 (THE ANIMAL SEX ANTHOLOGY Vol.3) by Masato Tsukimori et al (Izumi Comics)

Otonari Kazoku (Neighboring House Family) by Nekogen (MD Comics)

Eromon by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)

Kono Man_ ga Sugoi! (This Man_ is Awesome!) by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)

Hina Meikyū (Doll Labyrinth) by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)


Each of these volumes of manga, according to court files, contained minors engaged in sexual acts, sexual abuse on minors from adults, or minors engaged in bestiality.

Plus, the article shows a couple of the covers from the books and ANN had to blur out a lot of the images...

A well established fact about pedofiles, is that when found out or arrested, is that they have large collections of pictures of kids, and most and often all of the pics are of childen being used and abused sexually.  They also use such pictures to "get off" too before seeking out kids to abuse. 

Also, remember it's in the privacy of their own home or in other people's homes that a pedofile abuses children, not out in the open somewhere.

They also use kiddie porn (including comics, cartoons, pics, or anything else a child might be drawn to) to show the child they want abuse to help convice the child to "try it out."  As in...."This girl/boy looks like they are enjoying doing this, would you like to try it too?" in an attempt to overcome the child's natural reluctance or even fear.  Then during the abuse, they often take their own picture of the child and use those to help insure the child stays quiet.

I'm sorry, there is no good reason out there for anyone to own material involving the sexualization of children, in whatever manner whether obivious porn or the milder loli stuff.  It can all be used by a pedo to target and abuse a child.


In fact, the milder stuff, like the loli stuff would be even easier for the pedofile to use against a child, as the child might of already of enjoyed a edited version of the series.  Even "Loli" costumes especially from such a series could even be used to get the child as most kids like playing "dress up" when younger.

Freedom of expression?  Get real.  That arguement is really about the production of porn, not the owning of it, check the court cases.  This guy hasn't expressed anything by owning loli and magna decicting the sexual abuse as well as beastial abuse of minors...except maybe his poor judgement in buying it.

Personally, I'm really glad they did prosecute him, maybe he'll finally get treatment he needs so that he never abuses a child.  His fasination with the images of young girls being abused certainly leads me to believe that he will one day soon...assuming that he hasn't already.  Remeber this statement:

"although honest with what he reported, was not disclosing enough to gain a complete picture of the nature and extent of [his] sexual deviancy ... The main finding from the testing results is that Mr. Handley produced a guarded, defensive, and evasive profile. His test taking behavior suggests there is likely more to know about him than he is willing to disclose at this time."

This case isn't about owning manga or anime, it's about this man's preverted fasination with pictures of children being sexually abused by human or beast.  He was just hoping that catoon images wouldn't get him in as much trouble as a photo would. 

forgingaheart on http://boards.adultswim.com/t5/General-Action-Discussion/It-s-Illegal-to-be-a-lolicon-in-the-U-S/td-p/53244791/page/2

Some guy in Iowa was arrested for owning lolicons, which are simply drawings of childrens naked. But it's important to remember that drawings can feel pain, so these sexual deviants need to be arrested so no more drawings will be hurt.

[Travis Retriever]

And how do we know this to be true?  The guy's own statement?  What about this statment?

Also included is a letter from a certified psychologist explaining that there is currently "no risk assessment instruments developed to estimate risk for future sexual offending for individuals possessing sexual images in Manga or Anime." Handley's original psychological assessment determined that Handley, "although honest with what he reported, was not disclosing enough to gain a complete picture of the nature and extent of [his] sexual deviancy ... The main finding from the testing results is that Mr. Handley produced a guarded, defensive, and evasive profile. His test taking behavior suggests there is likely more to know about him than he is willing to disclose at this time."

I saw a lot of other red flags about this guy in the article:

Christopher Handley, the Iowa man on trial for possessing manga "drawings of children being sexually abused," was sentenced on Thursday to six months in prison.

Handley admitted he searched the Internet for manga with stories involving the sexual abuse of minors.

Handley said he then explored materials of a more adult nature as the internet became popular. His interests then "evolved" into a "fascination for images of young girls engaged in sexual activity."

According to the prosecution's files, Handley "spent the past 17 years collecting over a thousand works of manga from Japan of a sexual nature, using images of young girls in such books as a substitute for sex."

Then there are the materials themselves:


Mikansei Seifuku Shōjo (Unfinished School Girl) by Yuki Tamachi (LE Comics)

I [Heart] Doll by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)

Kemono for ESSENTIAL 3 (THE ANIMAL SEX ANTHOLOGY Vol.3) by Masato Tsukimori et al (Izumi Comics)

Otonari Kazoku (Neighboring House Family) by Nekogen (MD Comics)

Eromon by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)

Kono Man_ ga Sugoi! (This Man_ is Awesome!) by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)

Hina Meikyū (Doll Labyrinth) by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics)


Each of these volumes of manga, according to court files, contained minors engaged in sexual acts, sexual abuse on minors from adults, or minors engaged in bestiality.

Plus, the article shows a couple of the covers from the books and ANN had to blur out a lot of the images...

A well established fact about pedofiles, is that when found out or arrested, is that they have large collections of pictures of kids, and most and often all of the pics are of childen being used and abused sexually.  They also use such pictures to "get off" too before seeking out kids to abuse. 

Also, remember it's in the privacy of their own home or in other people's homes that a pedofile abuses children, not out in the open somewhere.

They also use kiddie porn (including comics, cartoons, pics, or anything else a child might be drawn to) to show the child they want abuse to help convice the child to "try it out."  As in...."This girl/boy looks like they are enjoying doing this, would you like to try it too?" in an attempt to overcome the child's natural reluctance or even fear.  Then during the abuse, they often take their own picture of the child and use those to help insure the child stays quiet.

I'm sorry, there is no good reason out there for anyone to own material involving the sexualization of children, in whatever manner whether obivious porn or the milder loli stuff.  It can all be used by a pedo to target and abuse a child.


In fact, the milder stuff, like the loli stuff would be even easier for the pedofile to use against a child, as the child might of already of enjoyed a edited version of the series.  Even "Loli" costumes especially from such a series could even be used to get the child as most kids like playing "dress up" when younger.

Freedom of expression?  Get real.  That arguement is really about the production of porn, not the owning of it, check the court cases.  This guy hasn't expressed anything by owning loli and magna decicting the sexual abuse as well as beastial abuse of minors...except maybe his poor judgement in buying it.

Personally, I'm really glad they did prosecute him, maybe he'll finally get treatment he needs so that he never abuses a child.  His fasination with the images of young girls being abused certainly leads me to believe that he will one day soon...assuming that he hasn't already.  Remeber this statement:

"although honest with what he reported, was not disclosing enough to gain a complete picture of the nature and extent of [his] sexual deviancy ... The main finding from the testing results is that Mr. Handley produced a guarded, defensive, and evasive profile. His test taking behavior suggests there is likely more to know about him than he is willing to disclose at this time."

This case isn't about owning manga or anime, it's about this man's preverted fasination with pictures of children being sexually abused by human or beast.  He was just hoping that catoon images wouldn't get him in as much trouble as a photo would. 

forgingaheart on http://boards.adultswim.com/t5/General-Action-Discussion/It-s-Illegal-to-be-a-lolicon-in-the-U-S/td-p/53244791/page/2

Some guy in Iowa was arrested for owning lolicons, which are simply drawings of childrens naked. But it's important to remember that drawings can feel pain, so these sexual deviants need to be arrested so no more drawings will be hurt.

Victimless crimes up in this bitch.  up yours, OP.