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[AnCap Dave]

Bill Maher proves just how super sciency and critical thinking he is.

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[Travis Retriever]

Yeah, we have two or three anti-natalists here, nothing to see. move on...

"here" as in this forum, or that picture?

[Ibrahim90]

"here" as in this forum, or that picture?

the picture, not you guys. As far as I know, no one here is.

but yeah, I'm not kidding: that's the kind of stuff quite a few anti-natalists say. Many (EDIT: sorry--all) believe in a "negative" value to human births, with many believing that humans are pretty much the reason the planet's got suffering in it (the Eagle's population decline being an example).

I've seen some who believe giving birth is a form of--and I'm not making this shit up--deliberate suffering inflicted on children (So to them, Shane's a sadist), and should therefore be avoided (so no procreation at all). Still others believe that voluntary extinction is the only solution to the environmental issues.

EDIT: if you want a more famous (if not the most eloquent) example of these people on YT, I'd recommend watching Inmendham's videos. I do warn you, he's a bit...crazy. for "serious" philosophy, go with Schopenhauer, Cioran, and David Benatar.

[MrBogosity]

Bill Maher proves just how super sciency and critical thinking he is.

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WTF does not labeling GMOs have to do with overfishing and horse meat in hamburgers???

[Travis Retriever]

the picture, not you guys. As far as I know, no one here is.

but yeah, I'm not kidding: that's the kind of stuff quite a few anti-natalists say. Many (EDIT: sorry--all) believe in a "negative" value to human births, with many believing that humans are pretty much the reason the planet's got suffering in it (the Eagle's population decline being an example).

I've seen some who believe giving birth is a form of--and I'm not making this shit up--deliberate suffering inflicted on children (So to them, Shane's a sadist), and should therefore be avoided (so no procreation at all). Still others believe that voluntary extinction is the only solution to the environmental issues.

EDIT: if you want a more famous (if not the most eloquent) example of these people on YT, I'd recommend watching Inmendham's videos. I do warn you, he's a bit...crazy. for "serious" philosophy, go with Schopenhauer, Cioran, and David Benatar.

I don't get the idea of anti-natalism...if they really believe that human life is inherently negative in value (a misanthropic view if ever there was one), why don't they practice what they preach and kill themselves? I love pulling a Hawkeye and destroying entire books worth of arguments with a single sentence. ^.^

And yeah, I'd say that, if anything a human embryo is definitely worth more than any other animal egg/embryo because of the human qualities of rationality.  Sorry misanthropic folk, but we're the species that put all our chips into our brains--including being kind and socialization--relative to the rest of them.  And yes, needless to say, I was thinking of BTF when I posted that.  I was looking for that image for MONTHS to try and post it here. I'm pro-choice and even I facepalmed at those responses of theirs.

[Travis Retriever]

http://blamethe1st.deviantart.com/journal/Why-I-No-Longer-Use-Tumblr-458424486
Not the journal or comments, but rather the images posted.  Good lord? Seriously? Anyone who's not a feminist is a sexist and men's feelings don't matter while your feelz are precious? Good grief.

[AnCap Dave]

[ArtemisVale]

Travon was not a violent 21 year old drug dealer! He was a violent seventeen year old drug dealer!

But seriously these people need to get a life/laid

[evensgrey]

Apparently, they have no idea how many years ago the character model must have been made for the game to be ready for release (unless it's as junky as a movie tie-in game).

[BlameThe1st]

Murray Rothbard comes to mind here: "It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance."

[Ibrahim90]

I don't get the idea of anti-natalism...if they really believe that human life is inherently negative in value (a misanthropic view if ever there was one), why don't they practice what they preach and kill themselves? I love pulling a Hawkeye and destroying entire books worth of arguments with a single sentence. ^.^

well, not quite: remember, Antinatalism places a negative value on human births, not human life itself (at least, not directly). Which if anything is an even less defensible position than a direct assignment of negative value to human life itself, since you now have a contradictory position, on top of the misanthropy (human life can't really be separated from its beginning). the contradiction is only sharpened when you add in how many consider being alive=suffering, yet the goal of life being to avoid suffering, which is why they don't bump themselves off (since it involves suffering). the infliction of suffering (or rather, its prevention) being the reason some of these people are against human births.

who is BTF by the way?

[Travis Retriever]

well, not quite: remember, Antinatalism places a negative value on human births, not human life itself (at least, not directly).

Actually yes, because you can't have the latter without the former, as you said later on.

Also, BTF = BlameThe1st.

[Ibrahim90]

Actually yes, because you can't have the latter without the former, as you said later on.

not disagreeing. But I feel that their train of thought (as far as I can make out), is even dumber than just directly saying human life has a negative value, and more entertaining to expose.

Also, BTF = BlameThe1st.

Oh, OK.

[Travis Retriever]

not disagreeing. But I feel that their train of thought (as far as I can make out), is even dumber than just directly saying human life has a negative value, and more entertaining to expose.

Oh, OK.

Ah, got it.  In my defense, I was really tired and sleepy when I made that post.

You're welcome.

[AnCap Dave]

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