Unnamed(?) logical fallacies

[Gumba Masta]

Shouldn't that be segregation?

[MrBogosity]

Dangit! That's what I get for posting at 7am. The bogons are really active for me that time of the morning...

Fixed.

[Gumba Masta]

Were the americas of the USA at that time really more properitate as they say?

[MrBogosity]

Read the Treaty of Paris. American citizens were specifically granted full ownership of their property. Of course, ever since then, government has been eroding that ownership.

[Travis Retriever]

Okay, this has GOT to be a fallacy of some kind.

You talk about economics. You talk about how prosperous the 1950s were and why, and how it was a time of genuine prosperity, not a bubble like the '20s or the '80s. You talk about the small government and monetary policies that gave us this benefit. And then you run into someone like this guy (start the video around 3:20):

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Yeah, as if the only way you can implement those policies is to reintroduce segregration!

(We won't get into the "What freedoms has Obama taken away?" part, because that's a list that could go on a long, long time...)

Anyway, the point is that employing that same economic policy does not in any way mean approval of or wishing to reinstate racial or sexist attitudes and policies of the time. IMO, there needs to be a named fallacy for associating irrelevant aspects just because they happened to coincide, for the purpose of discrediting the argument when, of course, absolutely nothing has been done to refute it.

Dude! You must be physic or something.  I was just thinking about this last night.
I'm thinking
appeal to racism or racist policy  (maybe).

But yeah, I can't think of any way that ISN'T fallacious.

[MrBogosity]

Dude! You must be physic or something.  I was just thinking about this last night.
I'm thinking
appeal to racism or racist policy  (maybe).

I'm not even thinking about racism per se. Another example is, "You want to go back to the days of mutual aid societies for health care? Why, we didn't even have MRIs or a lot of modern vaccines then!" As if the mutual aid societies were the reason why those technologies weren't available, or they would suddenly go away if we reinstated them.

[Travis Retriever]

I'm not even thinking about racism per se. Another example is, "You want to go back to the days of mutual aid societies for health care? Why, we didn't even have MRIs or a lot of modern vaccines then!" As if the mutual aid societies were the reason why those technologies weren't available, or they would suddenly go away if we reinstated them.

I'm afraid to ask, but, is that a real example from an actual statist/socialist that you've encountered?

[MrBogosity]

Yes.

[MrBogosity]

Anyone have a good name for that Bill Maher fallacy?

Here's another one that continually bugs me: Woo (creationists do this a lot, but (as usual) I've got it from statists, too) makes a claim to person A in a public forum, like the comments in a YouTube video or a forum like this one. Person B comes along and refutes him. Woo responds with "I wasn't talking to you!" Completely misunderstanding the nature of a public forum, of course--and using that as an excuse to evade the rebuttal.

It's especially egregious when person A was talking to a person C to begin with: the woo then would have responded to a post made to someone else, and complaining when person B did it to them!

I think this needs a good name.

[Gumba Masta]

I christen you "Boston Cream Saucer Fellatio". I mean fallacy, fAllaCY!

[MrBogosity]

Boston Cream Saucer?

[Gumba Masta]

Well I thought a bit of creativety couldn't hurt now and then.  
Basicaly I just typed in the first words that came to my mind after reading your post.

[MrBogosity]

Also, why does the latest version of the list not have "Strawman recursus"?
That is, falsely accusing someone of committing a strawman, thereby committing a strawman fallacy in the process?

Been thinking about this...I don't like the mixing of English and Latin, but what about Meta-Strawman?

[Travis Retriever]

Been thinking about this...I don't like the mixing of English and Latin, but what about Meta-Strawman?

Sounds good to me!

[AnCap Dave]

Oh thank Toki (Fist of the North Star reference) that we're finally giving a fallacy to a guy like Bill Maher.

Words cannot describe the hatred, contempt, and disdain (except those words obviously) I hold for this man. Sure, he doesn't believe in the G-man, but that doesn't mean jack when he's practically brainless in everything else.

My dad likes Bill Maher's show, so I unfortunately have to hear him every now and then, and when I do, I feel physically ill every time.

His argument on 1950s economics is the same kind of nonsense I hear when people say that the Constitution shouldn't be followed because the people who wrote it were slave owners, and thus, the document itself has no moral ground. It's stupid, and honestly, I see it as grasping at straws to nitpick a reason to bash something. Honestly, I just refer to it as douchebaggery, but that might be considered too harsh for some people.

EDIT: After thinking about it further, if we're going to give it a name, I'd say "Appeal to Negative Circumstance." When rejecting a good idea because when it was implemented, something bad was happening roughly around the same time.