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[R.E.H.W.R.]

http://thestickchick23.blogspot.com/2014/09/im-larper-and-im-okay.html

[ArtemisVale]

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[Travis Retriever]

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+1 cluons for you. And yeah, we see it now with libertarians with fucktards like Bleeding Heart Libertarians, the conspiracy mongers, and the alt med wackos.

[Travis Retriever]

And speaking of the above video, it reminds me of a lesson I learned with regards to people (or at least my mom)  Whenever you hear someone bitch about you not having empathy or whatever, you just know that said statement and what follows is bullshit.

[MrBogosity]

And speaking of the above video, it reminds me of a lesson I learned with regards to people (or at least my mom)  Whenever you hear someone bitch about you not having empathy or whatever, you just know that said statement and what follows is bullshit.

Not necessarily. There are LOTS of times I've seen statists argue without empathy. The thing to do is call them out on it. So look at WHY the person is saying that and see if the reasons make sense. (Which, in your case, I'm sure they don't.)

[Travis Retriever]

I don't think I've posted this here. It was written back in 1986, but it still speaks to me today:

It's also amazing how well it applies not just to hackers, but folks like me, even to this day.  I've ALWAYS found my time on the internet and the people I know online like you, Dave, Hawkeye, etc vastly more fun and engaging than anyone I've ever met irl.  That not only includes my libertarian friends, but also my friends in the furry fandom.  It's a reason I want to go to a furry convention and maybe meet some of them irl.

[Travis Retriever]

Not necessarily. There are LOTS of times I've seen statists argue without empathy.

This doesn't logically follow from what I said. I didn't say "statists" I said people.  And I never said they *don't* argue without empathy.  Only that I find that when it is used, it's normally used as a bludgeon.

The thing to do is call them out on it. So look at WHY the person is saying that and see if the reasons make sense. (Which, in your case, I'm sure they don't.)

Can you give an example?

And yeah, I don't mean it as a first principle rule like burden of proof, I meant more as a Bayesian, hedging my bets kind of rule.  I've done this dance enough times to smell the bs a world away.  I've had that word been used as a bludgeon on me by my mom so many times as soon as I hear it, it's a Pavlovian response to disregard anything with and after it.

[MrBogosity]

And yeah, I don't mean it as a first principle rule like burden of proof, I meant more as a Bayesian, hedging my bets kind of rule.

Okay, you just stated it as a universal principle.

[Travis Retriever]

Ludwig von Mises: "Virtually all the Christian churches and sects have espoused the principles of socialism and interventionism." Omnipotent Government p. 120

[Travis Retriever]

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"If you are for gun control, then you are not against guns, because the guns will be needed to disarm people. So it's not that you are anti-gun. You'll need the police's guns to take away other people's guns. So you are very pro-gun, you just believe that only the Government (which is, of course, so reliable, honest, moral and virtuous) should be allowed to have guns. There is no such thing as gun control. There is only centralizing gun ownership in the hands of a small, political elite and their minions." - Stefan Molyneux

[Travis Retriever]

"Political correctness is anti-empathetic because it has correctness in it. We all have biases, we all have prejudices and if we cant talk about them openly - if we get attacked for it then this is an anti-empathetic movement and therefore it cannot complain about a lack of empathy." --Stefan Molyneux

[AnCap Dave]

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It always seemed there was way to much effort being put into trying to suppress this for it to just be about one hypocritical Feminist prostituting herself to a handful of male gaming journalists.

[Travis Retriever]

"A very good rule of thumb I've found:  If a person bitches about a problem caused by government, ignores govco's role in it, evades said role when it is brought up, or, worst of all, proposes political solutions to said problem (Climate Change Alarmists who guilt trip people for using power, eating beef, etc, while giving govco a free pass on this stuff being the best example of this), then the person is a bullshiter you can safely ignore."--Me inspired by Hawkeye.

[dallen68]

It always seemed there was way to much effort being put into trying to suppress this for it to just be about one hypocritical Feminist prostituting herself to a handful of male gaming journalists.

Except for the part where the hypocritical feminist (assuming we're talking about Sarkeesian, not the other hypocritical feminist) is 2014, and what this guy is talking about is 2011/12.