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[Travis Retriever]

You got any OTHER sporting events that are always moving to a new location every time, often in states with, at best, highly questionable behavior towards their own citizens?

Not yet.

[Ibrahim90]

IMO the funniest book ever written in the Arabic language: kitab al-bukhala' (the book of Misers), by Al-jahidh. If you guys ever learn Arabic (or could find a translation), I'm sure you'll find great lulz in it:

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these are my favorites so far:

"a guy once went to a Khorasani, to ask him if he could lend him a frying pan. The Khorasani replied: "we had a frying pan, but a thief stole it.". So the guy went ahead and borrowed one from a neighbor, and soon the Khorasani could hear the crackling of the meat as it was frying, and could smell the Tabhajes (Tabhaj is a type of fried meat). So he went over angrily to the guy, and told him: " you are the most astonishing of men! had you told me that you were going to cook with meat and grease, I would have been quicker to lend you my frying pan. I had thought when you asked that you were to fry beans, and my frying pan would be burned by doing this*, but is great with delicious food"

a Khorasani was entertaining his guests, and he served all of us a small plate with a single date and measure of grease. Similarly the meat was served. Yet it was noticed that the Khorasani was piling all the grease from his plate onto the dates, scraping all that he could as much as possible. Puzzled, I asked the man next to me: "what is wrong with him?" the man replied: "you don't know his problem? yeah, this guy doesn't want to waste grease, and he in fact divorced his wife--the mother of his Children--because he came upon her wiping down the plates of the food, and he asked her: "are you wiping this?' to which she said "yes". He then asked: "with hot water?!"

a Khorasani who was one of their "wisest and most rational of men" was found by a man eating alone. the man asked him: "why do you eat along?" the Khorasani replied: "that is not the real question. the real question is: why would anyone eat in company? that is extravagance, and it is the natural way to eat alone, and any company would be excessive.

And similar to this was what Muhammad b. Bashir said about a governor whose name was "Khalid b. Mahrawai", or perhaps someone else: "between us we had some poets who were at his court, and one of them had made a poem of great rythm that pleased the governor. The governor told him: "we are pleased with your verse". He then called for his scribe: "give him 10,000 dirham!". at this, the poet was most joyful, and couldn't contain himself. the governor said to the poet: "I have seen what this has done: let us make this 20,000 dirham". At this it was as if the poet was to leap out his skin in joy. Seeing that he had multiplied the poet's joy, the Governer said: "I see that in multiplied my reward, I have not multiplied your joy as much: scribe, make it 40,000 dirhams!". The poet was near death with glee, but collected himself, and said: "God make me your fida': you are a generous man, for whenever you saw my joy multiply, you multiplied my reward, and my acceptance should not imply a lack of gratitude to you". he then wished him well and left.

At this, the scribe asked him: Sire, the poet stopped at 40,000 dirham, so you order 40,000 dirham?. the Governor said: "watch it! do you really want to give him a thing?!". the Scribe replied: "but I must obey your command!". The governor said: "you Idiot! that man has pleased us with words, so we pleased him with words! For when he claimed I was finer than the Moon, and mightier than the lion, and my tongue is more cutting than a sword, and my orders are more piercing** than a speartip, did he make me any of this?! do we not know that he had lied?! But he pleased us when he lied to us, so we too will please him, by ordering prizes for him. And if it be a lie, than we would only be countering a lie with a lie as we should, and words with words. But to counter lies with truth, and words with action, that would be falling short, as we have heard from you!"

*he's bullshitting (because that wouldn't have happened).
**it's a play on words in Arabic: the original was "anfadhu mina-as-sinani". "anfadh" in Arabic can mean either "more/most piercing", or "more/most readily carried out". In effect, he's saying that the Governor's orders have the combination of being carried out on a whim, but also insightful and decisive, cutting right to the heart of the matter.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

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[Travis Retriever]

"'So all the people who think government is a good thing if implemented right are psychopaths correct?' Yes, just like everyone who thinks that rape is a good thing if 'implemented right.'"--Shane Killian, comments of this video:
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Posted because it was a fucking awesome quote, and to balance out the one of his I posted in fail quotes.

[Travis Retriever]

"Ah yes, socialism, AKA: Let's take economic advice from a economically illiterate slob who never worked a day in his life and exploited the shit out of everyone he could get his slimy tentacles around.  (Karl Marx)" - Hawkeye, to me, in AIM.

[Travis Retriever]

"The Olympics & The World Cup:  Because nothing promotes unity & peace like jingoism, Orwellian police states, corporatism, park barrel boondoggles, massive debt and screwing of the poor and small businesses to make room for sponsors to make this sports shit even remotely economically feasible."--Me

[Travis Retriever]

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The talk in fail quotes regarding that article reminds me of this.  Harsh, but true.

Love the burthurt statists in the comments:
"+johnrmcclure1 Calls someone violent and then recommends suicide.

Just another day in lolbertarian land."--SFK Mailbag
suicide =/= violation of NAP or initiation of force.  Try again, OP.

[AnCap Dave]

Julie Burowski posted the following win on Facebook:

Another thought on: "Just teach men not to rape."

(See my new video on "rape culture" for clarification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-cTBmrdeo)

This statement implies that people are not being taught that they shouldn't rape-- or not sufficiently enough. Following that logic, people who rape others are unaware of why their actions are bad. To me, that sounds like excusing the behavior of rapists or even possibly sympathizing with them because of their supposed ignorance. Can you imagine? "Aw, they just didn't know that forcing someone to have sex against their will is a bad thing."

I'm going to call malarkey on that one. Of course, everyone should be taught not to rape. Some people, though, are frankly just bad people who won't listen or care. That's why self defense is important.

[ArtemisVale]

This was posted by m.a. copenhaver (the Sexy Libertarian) on facebook, although she clarified that it was because she was a level 90 blood elf paladin.

Dayum

[Travis Retriever]

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W00t! Something I wrote actually got me referenced by name in a video!
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>>mfw

Love your additions to the list as well.
14:40--One thing I would have added regarding the social contract argument--no, the constitution applies to government, as you explained in your constitution lecture series.  Government employees take a legally binding oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution.  It applies to govco, not to the rest of us.
I also liked how you came up with far more examples of each 'team' of govco lying in #10. 

I also liked 556deltawolf's comments regarding the interning of Japanese Americans and others.  But you know, it was FDR/a democrat so he doesn't count.

Fun fact--I actually *knew* about the interring of German Americans (well sort of), but in the documentary they said, "oh, but it was soldiers and we were nice to them, e.g. letting them drink beer, etc on the grounds that if we were nice to them, the Axis powers would do the same to our prisoners of war."  Okay, so it might have been prisoners of war not just German Americans, but there you go.

I know I don't usually post political stuff on FA, but fuck it, I figured I'd post the video and the addition(s) to it like that on all the sites I'm on--DA, FA, IB, SF & Weasyl. XD Because dang it, I was actually rather proud of that.

[ArtemisVale]

[MrBogosity]

Sean Haugh rocks it int his video:

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[Travis Retriever]

Sean Haugh rocks it int his video:

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Another good one.

[Travis Retriever]

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W00t! Something I wrote actually got me referenced by name in a video!
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>>mfw

Love your additions to the list as well.
14:40--One thing I would have added regarding the social contract argument--no, the constitution applies to government, as you explained in your constitution lecture series.  Government employees take a legally binding oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution.  It applies to govco, not to the rest of us.
I also liked how you came up with far more examples of each 'team' of govco lying in #10. 

I also liked 556deltawolf's comments regarding the interning of Japanese Americans and others.  But you know, it was FDR/a democrat so he doesn't count.

Fun fact--I actually *knew* about the interring of German Americans (well sort of), but in the documentary they said, "oh, but it was soldiers and we were nice to them, e.g. letting them drink beer, etc on the grounds that if we were nice to them, the Axis powers would do the same to our prisoners of war."  Okay, so it might have been prisoners of war not just German Americans, but there you go.

I know I don't usually post political stuff on FA, but fuck it, I figured I'd post the video and the addition(s) to it like that on all the sites I'm on--DA, FA, IB, SF & Weasyl. XD Because dang it, I was actually rather proud of that.

Now available in text form here: http://shanedk.deviantart.com/journal/How-To-Argue-For-Statism-v2-0-460381065 ^.^

Also: 

Yeah, such dangerous people.  Reminds me of the creationist talking point: "I mean, if there was no god to tell us right from wrong, I'd go out murdering raping and eating people!" or something...replace God with Govco and it really makes you think what insanity goes on in their heads, no?

[Travis Retriever]

http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/bodybuilding-vs-aesthetics/
A comment I left on the above article (that I'm rather proud of):
"I never understood the 'Oh, you shouldn't just train for muscle mass! You wanna be musclebound or have a heart attack from all the extra weight?  You should train for strength not mass!' mentalities.

You [Menno] already debunked the 'musclebound' bit by noting that unless you have near ideal genetics for bodybuilding, have trained for hours a week for years, are on various steroids and other drugs for at *least* half the year and using various artificial aids that a person will NEVER be as big as Coleman. So a fortiori, they will never be big enough to be musclebound.

As Alan Aragon has pointed out here:
http://www.simplyshredded.com/nutrition-expert-alan-aragon-talks-with-simplyshredded-com.html
'Resistance training has plenty of cardio-respiratory & cardiovascular effects on its own, as long as you’re not training like a pure powerlifter with long rest periods between all sets.'  I doubt it would 'give me a heart attack' especially considering I'm drug free.  And even then it seems to be the folks who really go nuts with abusing the drugs and who maybe have genetic sensitivities to them who tend to have those issues.

Also, from a health perspective, I'd argue that more muscle IS a good thing in and of itself.  I know it's not good form to cite Wikipedia, but since they were the only ones to ever cite a source on these figures, I'll go with them.
'At rest, skeletal muscle consumes 54.4 kJ/kg (13.0 kcal/kg) per day. This is larger than adipose tissue (fat) at 18.8 kJ/kg (4.5 kcal/kg), and bone at 9.6 kJ/kg (2.3 kcal/kg).[12]' ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle#Energy_consumption )  That figures to be about 6 Cal/lb per day for muscle, 2 Cal/lb per day for fat and about 1 Cal/lb per day for bone.
So it keeps your metabolism up if you have some extra muscle, making it easier to lose fat.  Also having a few pounds more of muscle (all else equal) means a lower % of body fat (even if the absolute of body fat is still the same) which is good, especially when obesity is defined in terms of % body fat.  Math doesn't lie.

As for not being strong...um, how COULD I reach my drug free genetic limit of muscle mass and NOT be stronger than I am now is what I want to know.  Okay, so if I'm focusing on hypertrophy I probably won't be winning any powerlifter competitions unless I have Dorian Yates or Reg Park (or Tom Platz leg) genetics. Fine. I don't disagree with that. But to act like strength and size are mutually exclusive the way so many of these people do is just dumb."

Further vindicating it as win was Menno's reply:  "Agreed 100%. In natural lifters, the more lean body mass you have, the better, even if only for the sake of improved insulin sensitivity."