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[AnCap Dave]

Chaz of the Chaz and AJ show is sadly in the minority when it comes to school uniforms.

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[Ibrahim90]

much better: the format was a bit screwed.

[AnCap Dave]

[Travis Retriever]

And speaking of our educational system:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19849_5-infuriating-things-nobody-tells-you-about-college.html

[MrBogosity]

"Skeptics don't look for 'converts,' they'll tell you the truth whether you like it or not." --JohnRainRules, these comments.

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[Lord T Hawkeye]

And speaking of our educational system:

http://www.cracked.com/article_19849_5-infuriating-things-nobody-tells-you-about-college.html

One comment was quite telling

"Regarding the first point there, college is not high school. You're not paying to be babied gently into understanding of basic concepts, you're paying to receive information from and to be able to ask questions of people much, much better at the subjects in question than you. Grad students fit this description as well as tenured faculty, and to boot they'll usually give you more of the babying you seem to feel is a vital part of education.

College is education for _adults_, and adults are capable of putting in their own legwork, read texts, do homework, and figure out what questions to ask. It's not job training, if that's what you want that's fine, but there's a place for it and it's called community college."


So college is charging you for the priviledge of doing work that you just admitted we could do on our own anyway?  What a complete admission of failure.

[evensgrey]

One comment was quite telling

"Regarding the first point there, college is not high school. You're not paying to be babied gently into understanding of basic concepts, you're paying to receive information from and to be able to ask questions of people much, much better at the subjects in question than you. Grad students fit this description as well as tenured faculty, and to boot they'll usually give you more of the babying you seem to feel is a vital part of education.

College is education for _adults_, and adults are capable of putting in their own legwork, read texts, do homework, and figure out what questions to ask. It's not job training, if that's what you want that's fine, but there's a place for it and it's called community college."


So college is charging you for the priviledge of doing work that you just admitted we could do on our own anyway?  What a complete admission of failure.

It's also completely untrue, at least at the undergrad level.  When I was in university (Canada calls them differently, if it grants degrees, it's a university, what we call colleges are called trade schools in the US) I was told the way it was when some of my older proffs were undergrads (which would have been back in the early 1950's): Having to go and locate and read the journal articles about lab work to be done, then design the experimental and analytical procedures to be used (just like a real, working scientist does), none of this having everything laid out in the lab manual like a cook book the way things are now.

[Travis Retriever]

"It's not job training, if that's what you want that's fine, but there's a place for it and it's called community college."

Fuck this elitist prick.  Not all of us are made of money and credit.

So college is charging you for the privilege of doing work that you just admitted we could do on our own anyway?  What a complete admission of failure.

Based on evensgrey's input, it sounds like that entire comment of his is just excuse making rationalizing bullshit.

[AnCap Dave]