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February 22, 2012, 07:11:38 PM
[yt]AAcBat3XeLA&feature=youtu.be[/yt]  Was PM'ed this.  How much you wanna bet there's no actual refutations in it?

....Stopped watching a few seconds after he started talking.  This guy couldn't have missed the point any worse if he was aiming the wrong way and the point was in another country.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
February 22, 2012, 07:17:42 PM #1
Notice how he didn't even try to make it a video response to any of your videos?  What a coward!

Also, I looked at his other 2 videos.  They don't appear much better.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
February 22, 2012, 07:25:41 PM #2
I'd watch that, but I just ate dinner and I don't feel like vomiting.
February 22, 2012, 07:31:34 PM #3
Quote from: D on February 22, 2012, 07:25:41 PMI'd watch that, but I just ate dinner and I don't feel like vomiting.

Well, at least one of us was smart enough to avoid it.
I was full near wrenching as soon as he started talking.

For one, is he recording that voice of his using a potato? (overused schtick, I know, but still).  His voice is so quiet, and so snowy, I'm surprised I was able to perceive him clearly.

For one, he tries to muddy the issue by essentially claiming that Hawkeye was making a strawman when he clearly wasn't:  Hawkeye was reading from the guy's very own words.  What more does he want?
Second, he says that the gov't of Canada didn't force itself on him because he was born there.  So if you are born in the land a gang controls, and they threaten you later on in life, the gang *isn't* using force?
Please.  His video is nothing but desperate spin and handwaving.

Yeah.  That was as far as I could get before x-ing out of it.

Oh look, he also disabled ratings--on all of his videos.  How lovely...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
February 22, 2012, 07:34:54 PM #4
The quote at the top of his channel says it all:

Abraham Lincoln in an 1854 essay on the role of government: "Why should we have government? Why not each individual take to himself the whole fruit of his labor, without having any of it taxed away? The legitimate object of government, is to do for the people whatever they need to have done, but which they can not do, at all, or can not do, so well, for themselves -- in their separate and individual capacities. There are many such things...roads, bridges and the like; providing for the helpless young and afflicted; common schools, the criminal and civil [justice] departments."

Translation:  gov't can do things that no other person or group of persons can do.

Typical state cultist bullshit.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
February 22, 2012, 09:00:38 PM #5
I made it to 4:10. It's hilarious that he tries to use the exact same arguments you rebutted as arguments against your rebuttal!

You really should watch the whole thing and blow him out of the water in another video, creationist-style.

(At least he didn't call you Lord The Hawkeye!)
February 22, 2012, 09:05:53 PM #6
I don't think he even deserves that much.  If that kind of piss poor effort is all you're going to put into a vid, then it doesn't deserve the attention.  It deserves to gather dust and wither in a forgotten corner of the internet.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...
February 24, 2012, 11:20:00 AM #7
And now he's figured out his video is being shredded on another forum where it's embedded, and he's blocked embedding.
February 24, 2012, 11:28:00 AM #8
Quote from: evensgrey on February 24, 2012, 11:20:00 AM
And now he's figured out his video is being shredded on another forum where it's embedded, and he's blocked embedding.

Link to the forum?
February 24, 2012, 11:36:24 AM #9
As to the argument in the video, here's how I keep seeing it:

Let's say you're on an island with no way off (this is analagous to our planet, BTW). Covering the entire Island is a bunker with a bunch of rooms in it, with no way out, but you can freely move from room to room. In one room, you get anally raped. In another room, you get waterboarded. In the third, you're forced to perform fellatio. And in the last room, you get an indefinitely-playing 5-second loop of a Tairo Cruz song.

In each case, the perpetrators say that you tacitly agreed to this torture because you have the choice of leaving and going to one of the other rooms.

You know, it would have been really nice if some people at some point in time had gotten the idea to go somewhere and create a new country based on individual liberty rather than the tyranny of a monarch or representative body...
February 24, 2012, 03:25:01 PM #10
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 24, 2012, 11:28:00 AM
Link to the forum?

By which I mean another forum than YouTube.  Here, in other words.
February 24, 2012, 03:28:45 PM #11
Quote from: MrBogosity on February 24, 2012, 11:36:24 AM
As to the argument in the video, here's how I keep seeing it:

Let's say you're on an island with no way off (this is analagous to our planet, BTW). Covering the entire Island is a bunker with a bunch of rooms in it, with no way out, but you can freely move from room to room. In one room, you get anally raped. In another room, you get waterboarded. In the third, you're forced to perform fellatio. And in the last room, you get an indefinitely-playing 5-second loop of a Tairo Cruz song.

In each case, the perpetrators say that you tacitly agreed to this torture because you have the choice of leaving and going to one of the other rooms.

You know, it would have been really nice if some people at some point in time had gotten the idea to go somewhere and create a new country based on individual liberty rather than the tyranny of a monarch or representative body...

There's also http://www.luf.org/ if it can ever be gotten off the ground and into the water.  The guy who wrote the book was smart enough to know he couldn't possibly work out both a likely technical basis and societal structure on his own, so he just tried to work out a plausible technical base.  It's some good stuff.
February 26, 2012, 10:07:20 AM #12
Whaddya know, our old friend FSAthe1st just gave him a high-five and called us all self-important douchebags by name. Dude carries a grudge for a long time, doesn't he?
February 26, 2012, 10:32:30 AM #13
Quote from: Virgil0211 on February 26, 2012, 10:07:20 AM
Whaddya know, our old friend FSAthe1st just gave him a high-five and called us all self-important douchebags by name. Dude carries a grudge for a long time, doesn't he?

The butt hurt is strong in that one.
February 26, 2012, 11:04:10 AM #14 Last Edit: February 26, 2012, 11:07:27 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
Quote from: Virgil0211 on February 26, 2012, 10:07:20 AMWhaddya know, our old friend FSAthe1st just gave him a high-five and called us all self-important douchebags by name. Dude carries a grudge for a long time, doesn't he?

Dr. Fluttershy, what are your thoughts on this FSAthe1st person?  And the people beating themselves off on the video and the video's maker himself?
Dr. Fluttershy:  [yt]Dl4LLs7WzPY[/yt]

My thoughts exactly.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
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