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Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2014, 10:45:03 AM
I don't want to have to post this here...but damnit, I can't not do it:  http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html
Don't get me wrong, I do generally like Casey's articles, but this one, while it has a lot of good in it, also has a LOT of bogosity in it too.  For one, he pulls the old, "well scientific methods and stuff can't compare to experience!" bullshit we've all heard from parents who spank their children.  And made even more condescending and annoying with an ad hominem/strawman/red herring of, "Just because you know the rules of boxing and the science of it doesn't mean you could take on a professional boxer in the ring. hur dur!"  Um, dude.  NO ONE is saying that.  Get off your high horse, you crotchety, old fuddy duddy.
Does he not see it as arrogant that he believes the 0.0001% of all experiences there are that he has represents all of it?  Without the benefits of scientific theory, falsification, and the like, it's as good as any other anecdote as far as I'm concerned.

And of course, goes into how, "well, I've seen students/grad students just make shit up just to get it published--which is probably most of the stuff you'll read from the scientific articles!  And scientists flat out plagiarize/fabricate stuff to keep getting grants!"  This might also explain the fact that his article only has one reference...Folks, if you have reason to believe a study/etc is bogus, that burden is on you.  Either give a methodological failure on part of the scientists or show another study that, say, wasn't funded by a supplement company or whatever to show it wrong.  But don't throw out all scientific studies like that--when he shows the results of his OWN on his own damn site--and still expect to be taken seriously.  Because now I have to wonder if the other stuff on his site is bogus too.  It's a shame as he's the only person I know of to do decent research into predicting muscular potential.

And of course him saying, "you MUST eat something right before and right after training!" Um, Casey?  That's the "anabolic window 'theory'" that has been long debunked by the likes of folks like Menno Henselmans and Armi Legge.  It's true that fasted training isn't a good idea in general, but come on! You don't need to eat right before/after a workout.  You underestimate just how efficient our bodies are, brofessor.

And some fun contradictions--he says don't waste money on supplements...then gives you a grocery list of them later in the article, he says to avoid machine exercises, while giving at least *one* of those in his trainee exercise program, which, as far as I could tell, he didn't offer an explanation for why he wants a trainee to do Donkey Calf Raises (requires a machine, or at least a person to sit on your back) instead of say, Standing Calf Raises (done with free weights & body weight).  As for the training 3x a week thing, what about folks like me who train 4x a week...but who only train for about 10-20 minutes a session, and who are only doing a section of our body each day (e.g. two days of upper body, two days of lower body)?  And of course the appeals to authority in that section too. *sigh* Not a shred of research presented, just the old "well MY authority can beat up THEIR authority!" pea-cocking bollocks.

Ya this sounds like the same arguments I get when I debate Katana fanboys.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2014, 10:32:03 AM
@Skm1091 & D:  You know what they say, better a Tea Bag than a Douchebag.

I typed in drones and I could not find any article talking about obama's use of drones.

Hmmmmm?

Quote from: Skm1091 on March 30, 2014, 01:12:29 PM
I typed in drones and I could not find any article talking about obama's use of drones.

Hmmmmm?
Natch.  Because war is done with good intentions when waged by a democratic presidents.

I was joking with the site you posted "Americans against tea party" and with D calling the folks in his post douchebags.  As I said, better tea bags than douchebags. :P
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

"Where have all the good men gone?"/"Why are there no good men?"--a few too many women...
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2014, 04:03:08 PM
"Where have all the good men gone?"/"Why are there no good men?"--a few too many women...

My response: "Have you looked in the Friend Zone?"

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 30, 2014, 04:11:25 PM
My response: "Have you looked in the Friend Zone?"
You, good sir, earned a cluon for that one. :)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

March 30, 2014, 08:42:37 PM #5661 Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 08:55:32 PM by Travis Retriever
This next piece of text is dedicated to all the hippies who have pressured food companies (often via laws) to not irradiate their food to make it clean:

So learning to cook chicken breast has been interesting.  I cooked it for like, 30 minutes in a pan on medium to medium low heat and it still had some red/pink-ish juice coming out of it (which was delish, however), and some parts inside of it still felt a bit grisly.  On part on the opposite end of where I was eating it looked a bit pink and felt tender so I shrugged and put the rest in the micro-wave to cook it all the way through.  Criminy, I think I should maybe use higher heat next time.
Blah, I felt nauseous a bit earlier too.  I'm wondering whether or not just cooking it for at least 30-45 minutes (depending on thickness) and then simply nuking it hard in the microwave at full power for about 1 to 2 minutes might be safer...blargh.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

It's not generally recommended to eat medium chicken, but anyway...

What I've noticed a lot of people do is boil it for like 10 minutes, and then put it on the fryer, barbie, roaster, whatever. You'll want to make sure to dap the excess water off first before putting it on the fryer/ in the deep fryer. For the fryer (or stove top frying pan) you would then fry it for about 30-40 minutes on med-high.

March 30, 2014, 10:41:05 PM #5663 Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 10:43:18 PM by D
When you make a video blaming gamers for killing the industry, you better have some damn good data to back you up. Unfortunately, Game Theory doesn't do that. Between cherry picking data, and not taking things into account like games being sold with the console as a complete package, this video is complete and utter fail.

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OMG more stupidity over at IAB:

This from a user named CrakrJak:
QuoteSqurlz4Sale: Europeans were exposed to cowpox, a much weaker relative of smallpox. That's why they gained resistance and that's how the vaccine was invented. There was nothing special about European immune systems.

Pooptart19: "...that's special pleading"

No it's not. God by definition is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and limitless. Atheists have completely failed to realize that God made science to limit us, science does not limit him.

Cajun: "A mere hole in a idea doesn't undermine it.."

A large enough hole, or several smaller holes, in any foundation brings the whole house down. The theory is basically built on a foundation that looks like swiss cheese and it's roof is leaking too.

http://www.i-am-bored.com/forums.asp?action=read&ct=10&q_id=96121&read_page=1#
Working every day to expose the terrible price we pay for government.

Quote from: D on March 30, 2014, 10:41:05 PM
When you make a video blaming gamers for killing the industry, you better have some damn good data to back you up. Unfortunately, Game Theory doesn't do that. Between cherry picking data, and not taking things into account like games being sold with the console as a complete package, this video is complete and utter fail.

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Plus he fails to mention poor marketing campaigns.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2014, 08:42:37 PM
So learning to cook chicken breast has been interesting.  I cooked it for like, 30 minutes in a pan on medium to medium low heat and it still had some red/pink-ish juice coming out of it (which was delish, however),

That would be the myoglobin. People think it's blood; it isn't. And yes, it is delicious. It's what gives red meat its red color and dark meat its dark tone.

Really, the only reason to cook it until the pink goes away is to make sure there aren't any bacteria like salmonella or E. coli. Of course, if the enviromentalist extremist wackjobs would get over their paranoia and let manufacturers irradiate meat it wouldn't be an issue...

Quote from: D on March 30, 2014, 10:41:05 PM
When you make a video blaming gamers for killing the industry, you better have some damn good data to back you up. Unfortunately, Game Theory doesn't do that. Between cherry picking data, and not taking things into account like games being sold with the console as a complete package, this video is complete and utter fail.

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If they actually understood the theory that is their namesake, they'd know that real Game Theory is all about how humans are going to react to the rules and to the situation.

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 31, 2014, 06:31:29 AM
That would be the myoglobin. People think it's blood; it isn't. And yes, it is delicious. It's what gives red meat its red color and dark meat its dark tone.

Really, the only reason to cook it until the pink goes away is to make sure there aren't any bacteria like salmonella or E. coli. Of course, if the enviromentalist extremist wackjobs would get over their paranoia and let manufacturers irradiate meat it wouldn't be an issue...
Thanks, that does make me feel better, as I at least didn't eat any of the meat while it was still pink in tone. :3  And yeah, seconded on the environmentalists (which I even noted in my original post to boot! :3).  The left can bitch about "HUR DUR PARANOID RIGHT-WINGERS WHO WANT WAR/CREATIONISTS WHO SUCK AT SCIENCE!" but given crap like that, and the hippy bullshit talking points like irradiated food, organic food, GMOs, nuclear power, gluten, to name but a FEW, it seems the left isn't without its share of science illiterate busybody fuckwads.  For giving me peace of mind, you just earned another cluon.  You're on a roll. :)
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on March 29, 2014, 02:51:53 AM
So now I've got someone using Hitler's Table Talk as proof that Hitler was not a christian.
Has anyone noticed how some people treat the constitution like a second bible.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on March 29, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSLiberty/

It combines the two things that I hate: anti-libertarian statists and feminist SJWs. Oh, the horror!

Arch-fascists? Sweet Celestia. At this point, "fascist" is nothing more than an insult against a politically opponent.
Doesn't this make the sexist and classist?