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Quote from: D on July 22, 2012, 09:39:13 PM
This monstrosity of an article

Apparently, no one told them that Canada ranks #6 on the Index of Economic Freedom where the US only ranks #10.

Concerning the NCAA's penalty to Penn State over covering up Jerry Sandusky's child molestation

Me
QuoteI'm not saying Penn State officials shouldn't have been punished for the cover up, but that's not the job of the NCAA.

It is a cartel charged with enforcing a narrow mandate relating (farcically) to amateurism and parity, neither of which had/has anything to do with child molestation. Its involvement relates exclusively to its financial and public-relations interest in pretending to be a moral authority; to give it credit for this self-serving performance cheapens the underlying subject matter, and shifts blame to the blameless, without the benefit of a reliable fact-finder.

Him
QuoteWell then I guess you're against employers firing employees who steal from them and falsify their time sheets

Point totally missed

On this vid of mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM9xqTONr5g&lc=-qN3HweZps3dBPVjQXT-8XnY4qI3WJkwk0oOi2vZreM&feature=inbox
swu880 had this very strange thing to say.

"Lordthawkeye empiricism is not really all that great. It is self contradictory for a number of reasons namely because of its very premises.

Real knowledge can only be derived from Logic & Reasoning.

See

watch?v=MWaGF4GZvTg

Hans hoppe does a critique on empiricism and "fact/study grubbers""


....what?  [yt]G2y8Sx4B2Sk[/yt]


My response
"

Yeah, who needs facts and studies right? ...right?

yeah...

Logic is neccessary but not sufficient. Observe

"I had steak for breakfast this morning."

This statement IS logical and consistent.  It's also wrong."


I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's just mistaken about what empericism means but it's still a fail quote.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Hawkeye, check that video's comments again.  He keep going on, and on, and on.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 24, 2012, 02:08:30 AM
On this vid of mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM9xqTONr5g&lc=-qN3HweZps3dBPVjQXT-8XnY4qI3WJkwk0oOi2vZreM&feature=inbox
swu880 had this very strange thing to say.

"Lordthawkeye empiricism is not really all that great. It is self contradictory for a number of reasons namely because of its very premises.

Real knowledge can only be derived from Logic & Reasoning.

See

watch?v=MWaGF4GZvTg

Hans hoppe does a critique on empiricism and "fact/study grubbers""


....what?  [yt]G2y8Sx4B2Sk[/yt]


My response
"

Yeah, who needs facts and studies right? ...right?

yeah...

Logic is neccessary but not sufficient. Observe

"I had steak for breakfast this morning."

This statement IS logical and consistent.  It's also wrong."


I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's just mistaken about what empericism means but it's still a fail quote.

Hmmmm....I think I recognize that sentiment.

Isn't that the sort of rubbish that the popular (and politically supported) philosophers of Classical Athens promoted, that helped inhibit the development of the formal scientific method for about 20 centuries?

Quote from: evensgrey on July 24, 2012, 09:50:44 AM
Hmmmm....I think I recognize that sentiment.

Isn't that the sort of rubbish that the popular (and politically supported) philosophers of Classical Athens promoted, that helped inhibit the development of the formal scientific method for about 20 centuries?

Yes, and it led to authoritarianism and ultimately the collapse of their civilization.

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 24, 2012, 10:10:11 AM
Yes, and it led to authoritarianism and ultimately the collapse of their civilization.

Jesus Christ!  Even MORE reasons to not take that postmodernist, anti-empirical, self-detonating horseshit seriously.
As Condescending Wonka would say to him after pointing out those facts that Shane did, "So tell me how it was absolutism that leads to authoritarianism again?"

Really, the inclusion of an Austrian School scholar (Hoppe) was just sad.  The worst part being that a lot of Austrian School advocates seem to think this bullshit.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Mayor Bloomberg talking about what the police should do as long as guns are legal in the U.S.

"I don't understand why the police officers across his country don't stand up collectively and say, 'We're going to go on strike. We're not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what's required to keep us safe. After all, police officers want to go home to their families and we're doing everything we can to make their jobs more difficult."

Quote from: Goaticus on July 24, 2012, 01:00:46 PM
Mayor Bloomberg talking about what the police should do as long as guns are legal in the U.S.

"I don't understand why the police officers across his country don't stand up collectively and say, 'We're going to go on strike. We're not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what's required to keep us safe. After all, police officers want to go home to their families and we're doing everything we can to make their jobs more difficult."

That could either be the best or worst thing to ever happen.

Best case scenario: Without cops, people will start their own protection agencies causing people to realize voluntary competition can work.

Worst case scenario: The military shows up and acts as the police until the cops come back.


Quote from: MrBogosity on July 24, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
Wow...Just wow.



which is funny, since in all the cases, the Government had a hand...
Meh

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 24, 2012, 07:35:44 PM
which is funny, since in all the cases, the Government had a hand...

Except the last one, which is a complete myth and a baseless scare that cost people millions.

Three mile island: An example of things going RIGHT.  They stopped the reaction and no one was hurt.  What more do you want?  And don't go thinking I didn't notice you skip past Chernobyl which WAS government run.

Love Canal: What about it?  It's not like the school district didn't know it was a waste dump.  It was spelled out for them multiple times.

Housing crisis: Fannie and Freddie?  Never heard of 'em...

Asian sweatshops: Yeah, make them go back to working in the sweltering hot fields for wood nickels.  That's how to show how much you care!

AIG and Ford Pinto: Who lets them get away with it?  Who encourages them to do it?  Who in fact games the game so that only those who do it can succeed?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

July 24, 2012, 08:05:53 PM #1993 Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 08:10:14 PM by MrBogosity
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 24, 2012, 08:03:30 PMLove Canal: What about it?  It's not like the school district didn't know it was a waste dump.  It was spelled out for them multiple times.

When Occidental sold the land to them (for $1), they put a deed restriction on it which said that buildings were NOT to be built on the land because of the possibility of the waste leaking.

EDIT: More info from our friends at Reason Magazine: http://reason.com/archives/1981/02/01/love-canal/singlepage

QuoteAsian sweatshops: Yeah, make them go back to working in the sweltering hot fields for wood nickels.  That's how to show how much you care!

Now don't be so cynical. They can always become prostitutes.

QuoteAIG and Ford Pinto: Who lets them get away with it?  Who encourages them to do it?  Who in fact games the game so that only those who do it can succeed?

The Pinto was a bogus scare anyway: http://www.pointoflaw.com/articles/The_Myth_of_the_Ford_Pinto_Case.pdf

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 24, 2012, 08:05:53 PMNow don't be so cynical. They can always become prostitutes.

Or die of starvation.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537