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#1
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 20, 2010, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on December 18, 2010, 08:20:05 PM
Which one?

presidents influence the federal reserve
#2
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 18, 2010, 07:40:01 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 15, 2010, 08:39:42 PM
You really don't get how this logic stuff works, do you?

certainly i do
#3
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 15, 2010, 06:49:55 PM


my assertion stands and nothing has been posted that disproves it
#4
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 14, 2010, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on December 12, 2010, 01:12:50 PM

It would seem that you've already been thoroughly beaten on this subject. That is, unless, you're willing to drop your ignorance and actually check the sources you've been provided.

notice how there is nothing in those comments disproving my assertion
#5
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 12, 2010, 11:38:08 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on December 11, 2010, 03:23:24 PM

And your evidence only refers to the present or recent time, not the time period in question. A complete non sequitur.

you're wrong again, the ability to appoint the fed chairman constitutes power & influence, hoover used that power in 1930 when he appointed meyer
#6
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 11, 2010, 09:34:28 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 11, 2010, 03:02:52 AM

Which means exactly what? That frogs eat lepers during hollidays? That cows and pigs have a tendency to break into songs about a poor jewish kid discovering his love for the violin? Could you please elaborate more?

watch the video, read the books i referenced, google it or take econ 101
#7
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 10, 2010, 11:08:28 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on December 10, 2010, 10:19:27 PM

The discussion you're referring to was about the ability of the president to influence the policy of the Federal reserve during the great depression.

no, i said the president had influence over the federal reserve before, during and after the depression
#8
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 10, 2010, 01:28:14 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 10, 2010, 01:14:44 PM
Second grade. I'm your senior so watch it.

i completed the 2nd grade in 1963

Quote from: VectorM on December 10, 2010, 01:17:24 PM
No capital letters, just like in ALL of your posts, including YouTube.

You are a master of self irony.


have you ever heard of ee cummings or bill gates?
#9
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 10, 2010, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on December 10, 2010, 12:08:18 PM
My good goodness. You actually made a post longer than a word.
Are you feeling well?

i feel fine

remind me what grade you're in?
#10
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 10, 2010, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: sfiorare

'it's obvious that presidents do influence the fed and that congress created it to be that way.'


Quote from: Virgil0211

invalid appeal to common knowledge fallacy and an argument by assertion fallacy. Can you respond to a legitimate argument without resorting to fallacies?


hey Virgil0211, stop pretending you understand logic, philosophy, history and economics

"monetary policy is quite responsive to political climate, especially as represented by the preferences of the President"

source: 'Congress, the President and the Federal Reserve' by Irwin L Morris  p 9

link:  http://books.google.com/books?id=yJRtr5zu0AMC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=the+political+influence+of+the+fed+%22weintraub%22&source=bl&ots=HUrIOzhAaP&sig=WUtm0j8Ckf0PMQZZAG9Fgbu7feA&hl=en&ei=VkQCTcacKsOC8gbau9jtAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20political%20influence%20of%20the%20fed%20%22weintraub%22&f=false


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"Several administrations used appointments to influence Federal Reserve decisions"

source: ‪History Of The Federal Reserve‬ By Allan H. Meltzer  p 21

link:  http://books.google.com/books?id=8peFljjm5CQC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=nixon+influence+federal+reserve&source=bl&ots=xkYppyGTR1&sig=cNoL4XLClJPZN30nZjoc-WilFgc&hl=en&ei=UUICTb-2H4Gq8AbMwum9CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=nixon%20influence%20federal%20reserve&f=false

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if you [fed chairman] want to keep your job... you do what the boss [president] wants


source: Thomas DiLorenzo   go to 35:00 [yt]VTs2ttdKatQ[/yt]   


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Quote from: Virgil0211

Anyone who wants to see this guy get torn to shreds whilst committing fallacy after fallacy in a vain attempt to save himself, check out the bogosity.tv forums. Considering how poorly he's able to defend himself, it's no wonder he started deleting comments that refer to the place on his page.

wrong again, but that's pretty funny coming from someone that blocked me on you tube

what's the matter, did you get tired of being shown your errors?
#11
Quote from: Virgil0211 on December 01, 2010, 11:56:23 PM
Irrelevant. Explain yourself.

answer the question
#14
Quote from: Virgil0211 on December 01, 2010, 11:35:40 PM
Says the guy whose regular staples are demonstrably untrue claims given without sources, insults, ad hominem fallacies, straw-man fallacies, and a plethora of clumsy rhetorical strategies. I use the term 'strategies' loosely, given their poor execution.

And it was a rhetorical question, moron. How can you be 52 and not understand even that?

what grade are you in?
#15
General Discussion / Re: Who owns the FED?
December 01, 2010, 10:57:01 PM
Quote from: VectorM on December 01, 2010, 10:43:56 PM
It only has no valid relationship, because you have no concept of what Broken Window Fallacy is, on top of your poor comprehension skills.

And people also gave you an explanation of every possible "Broken Window" thing out there and you still acted like a dumbwit.

You've shown to be the type of guy that asks "Do you want the right one or the left one" when asked to "Give a hand".

i guess you think everyone is as stupid as you apparently are