http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/diet-nutrition/story/2011/06/LA-school-district-bans-chocolate-milk/48458176/1?csp=34news
QuoteThe Los Angeles Unified School District is taking a stand against child obesity, becoming the nation's largest school system to stop serving sugar-laden flavored milk.
Chocolate milk cartons are seen at the Belmont Senior High cafeteria in Los Angeles.
The school board on Tuesday voted to eliminate chocolate and strawberry milk from schools as of July 1.
LAUSD joins a growing number of school districts nationwide, including in the District of Columbia, Boulder Valley, Colo., and Berkeley, Calif., that serve only plain milk because of the added sugar contained in flavored versions.
The proposal by Superintendent John Deasy came after popular British TV chef Jamie Oliver criticized the district in recent months for serving flavored milks, saying they contain the sugar equivalent of a candy bar.
In one stunt on his ABC show "Food Revolution," he filled a school bus with sand to represent the amount of added sugar LAUSD students consume in a year through flavored milk.
Some board members were rankled by the perception that the district was caving in to Oliver, who unsuccessfully lobbied the district to be allowed to film in local schools.
"I really don't understand why we're letting a TV chef dictate our policy," said board member Tamar Galatzan, who noted that many health advocates including the American Heart Association say the nutritional benefits of flavored milk outweigh the harm of added sugar.
Some advocates say that milk consumption drops when children are not offered the option of chocolate and other flavors.
She noted the district serves fruit juices containing 27 to 29 grams of sugar per serving, more than the amount of sugar in flavored milk — 20 grams in 8 ounces of fat-free chocolate milk and 27 grams in fat-free strawberry.
Galatzan was the lone dissenter on the board.
The board's decision was applauded by several proponents in the audience.
"Thirty percent of our kids are obese or are on track to diabetes," said Jennie Cook of Food for Lunch, a coalition advocating nutritious school food. She has been pushing the district to eliminate flavored milk for the past year. "This is a social justice issue."
Emily Ventura, a researcher with the University of Southern California's Childhood Research Center, noted that a number of experts did not recommend flavored milk as a healthy choice. She said 6,000 LAUSD parents had signed a petition to eliminate flavored milk from the district.
Some school districts have opted for a middle road, using natural sweeteners like cane sugar, beet sugar and Truvia to sweeten milks instead of high-fructose corn syrup based flavorings.
But others say children should learn to drink plain milk.
LAUSD has about 688,000 students, second only to the New York City Department of Education.
Banning chocolate milk? Children should just learn to deal with it? What the hell will they think of next? Soon they won't be allowed to drink anything but water and they'll only be allowed to eat white rice and crackers. Oh wait, those contain carbs. Okay, they won't be able to eat anything at all.
Chocolate milk is the best thing you can drink after exercising! So rather than banning it, they should be handing it out after PE!
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 15, 2011, 05:57:03 PM
Chocolate milk is the best thing you can drink after exercising! So rather than banning it, they should be handing it out after PE!
B-B-B-BUT THE SUGAR WILL DESTROY THE FABRIC OF REALITY AS WE KNOW IT!
I think the whole thing is asinine. Especially the attitude from the people who support this. "They'll learn to like it." You couldn't come off as a bigger smug asshole if you tried.
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20100604/chocolate-milk-refuels-muscles-after-workout
Quote"It's not just a dessert item, but it's very healthy, especially for endurance athletes," Lunn tells WebMD.
From Alan Aragon, Nutritionist and MS:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/an-objective-comparison-of-chocolate-milk-and-surge-recovery.html
Dear busybodies,
Go frolic in a field of organic wheat grass in your loincloth and spare the rest of us your self righteous noise.
Sincerely,
the rest of humanity.
no, the fabric of reality will not be torn by sugar.
but it is getting torn by banning Chocolate Milk.
seriously, who the fuck bans Chocolate Milk? what manner of brain damage do these people suffer from?
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 27, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
no, the fabric of reality will not be torn by sugar.
but it is getting torn by banning Chocolate Milk.
seriously, who the fuck bans Chocolate Milk? what manner of brain damage do these people suffer from?
Power tripping, serious brain damage it causes.
If it's "added sugar" they're worried about, they could offer chocolate WHOLE milk which wouldn't require additional sweetner in the chocolate in the first place.
Even though, as Menno showed in his article, The Science Of Nutrition: Is a Carb a Carb? (http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html): whether the carb is simple, complex, has a low/high Glycemic Index/Load or low/high Insulin Load or whatever is 100% irrelevant if you're already lean and active (and therefore healthy--barring drug use, or genetic diseases like type I diabetes). The *only* difference it makes is eating lower GI/GL/IL carbs tends to lower LDL more, and there are diminishing returns--that is, if you're already lean, active and otherwise healthy, eating 'healthy' food is not going to make you that much healthier.
As for the saturated fats in milk (another complaint you can be sure they have), Armi Legge put it best in his article, Why "Clean Eating" is a Myth (http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/):
"There is some evidence that synthetic trans-fats may be harmful, but the research is still inconclusive.79-85 There's little evidence that consuming a small amount of trans-fat is going to damage your health, especially since they've been removed from most foods. There is also evidence that some naturally occurring trans-fats like vaccenic acid may have health benefits.79,86"
The relevant sources:
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79. Mozaffarian D, Aro A, Willett WC. Health effects of trans-fatty acids: experimental and observational evidence. Eur J Clin Nutr. 2009;63 Suppl 2:S5–21. doi:10.1038/sj.ejcn.1602973.
80. Chardigny J-M, Destaillats F, Malpuech-Brugere C, et al. Do trans fatty acids from industrially produced sources and from natural sources have the same effect on cardiovascular disease risk factors in healthy subjects? Results of the trans Fatty Acids Collaboration (TRANSFACT) study. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008;87(3):558–566. Available at: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/3/558.long.
81. Gebauer SK, Chardigny J-M, Jakobsen MU, et al. Effects of ruminant trans fatty acids on cardiovascular disease and cancer: a comprehensive review of epidemiological, clinical, and mechanistic studies. Adv Nutr. 2011;2(4):332–354. Available at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3125683/.
82. Mozaffarian D, Clarke R. Quantitative effects on cardiovascular risk factors and coronary heart disease risk of replacing partially hydrogenated vegetable oils with other fats and oils. Eur J Clin Nutr. 2009;63 Suppl 2:S22–33. doi:10.1038/sj.ejcn.1602976.
83. Mensink RP, Zock PL, Kester ADM, Katan MB. Effects of dietary fatty acids and carbohydrates on the ratio of serum total to HDL cholesterol and on serum lipids and apolipoproteins: a meta-analysis of 60 controlled trials. Am J Clin Nutr. 2003;77(5):1146–1155. Available at: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/77/5/1146.long.
84. Teegala SM, Willett WC, Mozaffarian D. Consumption and health effects of trans fatty acids: a review. J AOAC Int. 2009;92(5):1250–1257.
85. Wallace SK, Mozaffarian D. Trans-fatty acids and nonlipid risk factors. Curr Atheroscler Rep. 2009;11(6):423–433.
86. Field CJ, Blewett HH, Proctor S, Vine D. Human health benefits of vaccenic acid. Appl Physiol Nutr Metab. 2009;34(5):979–991. doi:10.1139/H09-079.[/spoiler]
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 29, 2014, 10:02:13 AM
Even though, as Menno showed in his article, The Science Of Nutrition: Is a Carb a Carb? (http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html): whether the carb is simple, complex, has a low/high Glycemic Index/Load or low/high Insulin Load or whatever is 100% irrelevant if you're already lean and active (and therefore healthy--barring drug use, or genetic diseases like type I diabetes). The *only* difference it makes is eating lower GI/GL/IL carbs tends to lower LDL more, and there are diminishing returns--that is, if you're already lean, active and otherwise healthy, eating 'healthy' food is not going to make you that much healthier.
As for the saturated fats in milk (another complaint you can be sure they have), Armi Legge put it best in his article, Why "Clean Eating" is a Myth (http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/):
They got rid of whole milk from schools in the '80's, because...fat. Even though, at that time, there was like 1 fat kid for like 20 or so "not fat" kids. If the blah blah artists that are always telling us what we can and cannot eat had a clue what they were talking about, fat kids wouldn't now be the majority (at least according to the same blah-er's, I think it's actually more like 1 in 5 now, but anyway...).
If we are pretending that we're concerned with these children's health, specifically their weight, then let's be consistent. Let's see... Okay, so now we've reinstituted the menu that they had in 1952...Oh, wait, for most, that was whatever Mom packed for you... OMG, we can't have parents deciding what's best for their own children...The horror.
These are the same people who think that Pizza counts as a vegetable!
I don't understand how removing chocolate milk, a convenient trick to get kids to drink calcium rich milk, is a good thing. What's next, no doughnuts, brownies or cakes in the dessert section of the lunch line? Only serving Real whole wheat bread I can get behind, not the overly processed white wheat, but that is a different issue. It is obvious that this is trying to cure the problem of fat kids by taking away choices which is never a good thing. No it isn't serving highly fattening but cheap to produce and reheat foods they want to focus on but the chocolate milk.
Silly as ever when it comes to government interventions.
Quote from: Isolder74 on May 06, 2014, 08:20:48 PM
These are the same people who think that Pizza counts as a vegetable!
I don't understand how removing chocolate milk, a convenient trick to get kids to drink calcium rich milk, is a good thing. What's next, no doughnuts, brownies or cakes in the dessert section of the lunch line? Only serving Real whole wheat bread I can get behind, not the overly processed white wheat, but that is a different issue. It is obvious that this is trying to cure the problem of fat kids by taking away choices which is never a good thing. No it isn't serving highly fattening but cheap to produce and reheat foods they want to focus on but the chocolate milk.
Silly as ever when it comes to government interventions.
They already do that. They give kids fruit now I think.
Quote from: D on May 06, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
They already do that. They give kids fruit now I think.
Fruit laced with more sugar then some of those 'evil' desserts might I add.
Quote from: Isolder74 on May 06, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Fruit laced with more sugar then some of those 'evil' desserts might I add.
I know Connecticut was one of the first states to mandate new health food guides for school lunches. It started in my junior year of high school. They took away damn near everything from us. Couldn't buy french fries anymore, no more fried dough pizza, no more Coke or Snapple machines, but for some reason, they PUT IN an ICE CREAM machine!
Quote from: D on May 06, 2014, 09:39:40 PM
I know Connecticut was one of the first states to mandate new health food guides for school lunches. It started in my junior year of high school. They took away damn near everything from us. Couldn't buy french fries anymore, no more fried dough pizza, no more Coke or Snapple machines, but for some reason, they PUT IN an ICE CREAM machine!
Who wants to bet it was really ice milk?
I guess we could look on the bright side. LA has caught andpunished all the rapists, murders, and thievesout there.