Play the Podcast (https://bogosity.podbean.com/mf/web/9uggj5/BogosityPodcast-5-16-2011.mp3)
News of the Bogus:
- Pwnage Olympics winner: edenscancer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sheM1XwGarY
- Mozilla stands up to U.S. government takedown request http://www.techspot.com/news/43674-mozilla-stands-up-to-us-government-takedown-request.html
- Mozilla general counsel Harvey Anderson's comments http://lockshot.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/homeland-security-request-to-take-down-mafiaafire-add-on/
- The response from MAFIAAfire http://www.mafiaafire.com/quick_note2.txt
- Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm
- Medical marijuana patients top 30,000, number of pot providers drops in wake of raids http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/ec38126df019456295a8147e2bd10c6e/MT--Medical-Marijuana/
- Chile's Private Social Security System Turns 30 http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/570629/201104291742/Chiles-Private-Social-Security-System-Turns-30.aspx
- Chile's Privatized Social Security Program is 30 Years Old, and Prospering http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/south-america-mainmenu-37/7344-chiles-privatized-social-security-program-is-30-years-old-and-prospering
- Report: Chile Ranks as Top Latin American Destination Among Pension Managers http://www.ai-cio.com/channel/GENERAL_SURVEYS/Report__Chile_Ranks_as_Top_Latin_American_Destination_Among_Pension_Managers.html
- US prisoners refused all books except Bible http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/may/10/us-prisoners-refused-books-bible
- ACLU asks judge to block jail's book-banning policy http://www.thestate.com/2011/05/05/1806095/aclu-asks-judge-to-block-jails.html#ixzz1MFFM4M4x
- Galveston County Doesn't Want Prison Legal News In Its Jail http://www.texascivilrightsproject.org/?p=2341
Biggest Bogon Emitter: Washington Post Express http://www.expressnightout.com/content/2011/05/alternate-course-learning-practicing-homeopathy.php
Idiot Extraordinaire: Kerry [last name redacted] http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mom-year-daughter-botox-young-young/story?id=13580804
- Botox Mom Who Injected Daughter, 8, Under Investigation http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mom-gave-daughter-botox-investigated/story?id=13595955
This Week's Quote: "Nothing ruins a perfectly good 'Drugs Kill' campaign faster than a pothead who can win the Triathlon." —Tim Slagle
I just downloaded that add on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mafiaafire-redirector/eula/117862?src=addondetail
The point about the pot and our own bodies reminds me of this video by Lord T Hawkeye:
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I never knew about Chile's private pension plan. I'm rather intrigued by it actually. I posted the link you provided on facebook. I want to see what the state cultists, aka my family, would have to say about it.
The answers usually fall into one of three categories:
"Human nature is different there than it is here." (The racist answer)
"People here are too fat and lazy and stupid to save for their own retirement." (The elitist answer)
"La la la la I can't hear you!" (The cultist answer)
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 16, 2011, 03:37:55 PM
The answers usually fall into one of three categories:
"Human nature is different there than it is here." (The racist answer)
In which the person admits to being a racist douchebag. Or at least to having racist (or maybe nationalist) tendencies.
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 16, 2011, 03:37:55 PM"People here are too fat and lazy and stupid to save for their own retirement." (The elitist answer)
In which the person admits to being too fat and lazy to save for HIS/HER own retirement. Universality: it's a bitch.
Quote from: MrBogosity on May 16, 2011, 03:37:55 PM"La la la la I can't hear you!" (The cultist answer)
Which usually comes in the form of deflecting the question and/or shooting the messenger. See eirefrance on Shane's "Are you a libertarian?" video for more examples of this.
Well, so far I've gotten no replies. Not sure if they simply didn't see it (considering I posted it this morning) or if they're ignoring it. In fact, I posted the story on another forum as well and got no responses in that either.
Well somebody has to play devils advocate here. I haven't seen any official numbers on the personal account system in Chile. Just some sort of vague stories about how it's so much better. One example of one guy getting $55k with a personal account while an equivalent person under social security gets $18k does not mean the system is better overall. Don't we have anything better than the article in Investors Business Daily? Where did they get the 9.1% return number from? Is this before or after expenses? If such a system were to be implemented in the United States what things would we have to be wary of? Could our financial services industry deal with the sudden influx of half a trillion dollars? How long would it be before they could hire enough new people to give personal service to every person in the country? What about these accusations:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=227x61 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=227x61)
To be clear I personally think it would be better than our current social security plan but I would not choose to fool myself into thinking it would be perfect, especially with our government still having so many strings attached.
One further thing, the 1 to 2% return from social security you mentioned in your podcast is after inflation. Though it does not apply to new workers and often ends up being negative in those cases.
Quote from: Bignuncio on June 08, 2011, 08:55:46 PM
To be clear I personally think it would be better than our current social security plan but I would not choose to fool myself into thinking it would be perfect, especially with our government still having so many strings attached.
Who said it would be perfect? Please tell me. Seriously, every time a libertarian explains that something would be better than something else, some jackass immediately assumes that we think it will be perfect.
It's annoying, stop doing it.
Yep, our old friend the Nirvana Fallacy.
I never said the system needs to be perfect, I'm happy with it being better than social security. However if you can't answer a few challenges to the idea it does demonstrate your lack of knowledge about the topic. If you are basing your opinion on how well the personal accounts will work on an article from Investors Business Daily that is a pretty weak stance.
So if you really believe in the system then step up and answer some of the tough questions. We are skeptics around here are we not? Shouldn't we be equally skeptical about an idea we think is a good idea?
Quote from: Bignuncio on June 11, 2011, 01:01:41 AM
I never said the system needs to be perfect, I'm happy with it being better than social security. However if you can't answer a few challenges to the idea it does demonstrate your lack of knowledge about the topic. If you are basing your opinion on how well the personal accounts will work on an article from Investors Business Daily that is a pretty weak stance.
So if you really believe in the system then step up and answer some of the tough questions. We are skeptics around here are we not? Shouldn't we be equally skeptical about an idea we think is a good idea?
Hey, don't get all pissy with him just because he expressed indignation at you throwing out the same tired bullshit we've come to expect from statists while pretending to be unbiased.