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Title: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on April 27, 2011, 04:44:47 PM
For once I'm siding with President Obama. The birth certificate controversy has been a major BS issue for awhile now. It seems he released his "long form" certificate for public review.

I go to conspiracy site Above Top Secret as something of a guilty pleasure and the comments to the news want me crying from hilarity and the stupidity

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread694915/pg1
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on April 27, 2011, 05:35:34 PM
Yeah, and just when I thought no conspiracy theory could be dumber than chemtrails...
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on April 27, 2011, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 27, 2011, 05:35:34 PM
Yeah, and just when I thought no conspiracy theory could be dumber than chemtrails...

My favorite comment so far

QuoteThe exciting part is now that he's published this there had better not be any forgery in it at all or he'll be impeached. That might be part of the plan though - his handlers are wanting to fire him for his inability to get the 4th war going.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2011, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 27, 2011, 05:35:34 PMYeah, and just when I thought no conspiracy theory could be dumber than chemtrails...

Shane, you get an anti-bogon for that one; as will you, FSBlueApocalypse for starting this topic.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.
I mean, come on!  Even IF he wasn't born in the USA, and was thrown out of office as a result, what makes the people hawking this conspiracy think the next guy in line (regardless of his party) will be any better with spending and policy?
It'll just be the same crap as usual under a different name.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Virgil0211 on April 27, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
What? This crap is still going on?

Oh, yeah. Right. Trump brought it up again. I remember.

Well, at least I hope this pushes out trump as a potential GOP candidate. One less person to get the nomination over Ron Paul. One can dream, can't they?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on April 27, 2011, 05:58:48 PMOh, yeah. Right. Trump brought it up again. I remember.

Seriously?
And people wonder why I don't watch the news.  I can only handle so much bogosity.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 27, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
I'm glad we finally are through with this stupid conspiracy theory, but unfortunately, conspiracy theories are like roaches, no matter what poison (facts) you use to kill them, they never truly go away. These people will probably come up with some stupid excuse like, "OH WELL HE MUST HAVE MADE A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE BECAUSE HE TOOK SO LONG TO FINALLY GIVE US A BIRTH CERTIFICATE!"

You usually hear this argument from 2 different types of people, Republicans who just hate Obama because "haters gonna hate" and conspiracy people who think THE NWO IS GONNA KILL US ALL BROTHER! Usually when people throw the NWO at me, I mention how the NWO made WCW a lot of money so it can't be all bad. It's hilarious when they don't get the reference.


Edit:

Well look at that! Not even a day and we already have our first IT'S FAKE claim.

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What was that phrase I used again? Like roaches right?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Virgil0211 on April 27, 2011, 08:54:39 PM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on April 27, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
I'm glad we finally are through with this stupid conspiracy theory, but unfortunately, conspiracy theories are like roaches, no matter what poison (facts) you use to kill them, they never truly go away. These people will probably come up with some stupid excuse like, "OH WELL HE MUST HAVE MADE A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE BECAUSE HE TOOK SO LONG TO FINALLY GIVE US A BIRTH CERTIFICATE!"

You usually hear this argument from 2 different types of people, Republicans who just hate Obama because "haters gonna hate" and conspiracy people who think THE NWO IS GONNA KILL US ALL BROTHER! Usually when people throw the NWO at me, I mention how the NWO made WCW a lot of money so it can't be all bad. It's hilarious when they don't get the reference.


Edit:

Well look at that! Not even a day and we already have our first IT'S FAKE claim.

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What was that phrase I used again? Like roaches right?

Actually, I think that's termites, though IANTOM.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 27, 2011, 11:30:21 PM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on April 27, 2011, 07:52:36 PM
You usually hear this argument from 2 different types of people, Republicans who just hate Obama because "haters gonna hate" and conspiracy people who think THE NWO IS GONNA KILL US ALL BROTHER! Usually when people throw the NWO at me, I mention how the NWO made WCW a lot of money so it can't be all bad. It's hilarious when they don't get the reference.
That would explain why some conservative kid in my econ class (the same saying that global warming was debunked by those e-mails; the one I named "Jack") and a few others were going on about it.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 28, 2011, 09:09:31 AM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on April 27, 2011, 08:54:39 PM
Actually, I think that's termites, though IANTOM.

You mean it was an insect job?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on April 28, 2011, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on April 27, 2011, 07:52:36 PMWell look at that! Not even a day and we already have our first IT'S FAKE claim.

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"This video has been removed by the user." Figures.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Virgil0211 on April 28, 2011, 11:32:03 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 28, 2011, 11:08:59 AM
"This video has been removed by the user." Figures.

Oh, but you see, that's part of the conspirasah. :-P
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 28, 2011, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 28, 2011, 11:08:59 AM
"This video has been removed by the user." Figures.

Don't worry, the argument was "It can't be real because you can take the written parts off because they are layered with Adobe."

I'm not even kidding.

If it makes you feel any better, everyone's favorite conspiracy jackass that wasn't a former professional wrestler, Alex Jones, is now jumping on this like a gymnast at a trampoline sale.

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Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on April 28, 2011, 02:51:04 PM
WTF??? Do these "experts" not even understand what happens when you scan a document as a PDF??? It's ADOBE ACROBAT that created the layers--AFTER the document was scanned! It does it AUTOMATICALLY!!! These are CLEAR OCR artifacts.

If you're interviewing anyone for the position of Photoshop artist, and they tell you this is evidence of fakery, DO NOT HIRE THEM!!!

The joke is that these people are calling themselves "experts."
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: AnCap Dave on April 28, 2011, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 28, 2011, 02:51:04 PM
WTF??? Do these "experts" not even understand what happens when you scan a document as a PDF??? It's ADOBE ACROBAT that created the layers--AFTER the document was scanned! It does it AUTOMATICALLY!!! These are CLEAR OCR artifacts.

If you're interviewing anyone for the position of Photoshop artist, and they tell you this is evidence of fakery, DO NOT HIRE THEM!!!

The joke is that these people are calling themselves "experts."

The sad part though is some average joe who knows nothing of photoshop will see something like this and because they're touting themselves as "experts" they'll believe it.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2011, 03:36:21 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 28, 2011, 02:51:04 PM
WTF??? Do these "experts" not even understand what happens when you scan a document as a PDF??? It's ADOBE ACROBAT that created the layers--AFTER the document was scanned! It does it AUTOMATICALLY!!! These are CLEAR OCR artifacts.

If you're interviewing anyone for the position of Photoshop artist, and they tell you this is evidence of fakery, DO NOT HIRE THEM!!!

The joke is that these people are calling themselves "experts."
Guess I'm not an much of a Photoshop artist.  Then again, I've never used that program in my life.
At least I'm honest enough to admit that.  Can't say the same for these pseudo experts though.

You know what's most ironic about this?  Is that they're calling themselves experts despite many of these same people decrying "experts" in Climate Change, and other things.

By the way, what does "OCR" mean?
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Virgil0211 on April 28, 2011, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on April 28, 2011, 03:36:21 PM
Guess I'm not an much of a Photoshop artist.  Then again, I've never used that program in my life.
At least I'm honest enough to admit that.  Can't say the same for these pseudo experts though.

You know what's most ironic about this?  Is that they're calling themselves experts despite many of these same people decrying "experts" in Climate Change, and other things.

By the way, what does "OCR" mean?

Optical Character Recognition.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 28, 2011, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: Virgil0211 on April 28, 2011, 04:43:50 PMOptical Character Recognition.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: AnCap Dave on May 01, 2011, 07:11:14 AM
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I dislike his run as President....but I can't bring myself to hate the man when he pulls off such an awesome feat of trolling.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on May 01, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
A "friend" on Facebook is a birther, and he did this "Well I scanned in a PDF and it didn't do it" thing. So I took his PDF and loaded it into Acrobat. The only thing I did was run optimization on it--without OCR. Here is the result: https://bogosity.tv/files/Netgear-sample.pdf

And here is what it looks like in Illustrator: https://bogosity.tv/files/Netgear-PDF-optimized-sample.jpg

Look familiar?

EDIT: And whaddya know, he's now satisfied that the birth certificate isn't a fake! See? It does work sometimes!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on May 02, 2011, 07:08:56 AM
Here's the process I used to do it:

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Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on May 04, 2011, 01:17:43 AM
I was given this video as a response by one person,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi85U0HtU68&feature=player_embedded#at=140
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on May 04, 2011, 06:30:03 AM
Wow...the idiocy. Clearly debunked by my video.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on March 09, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
And this shit won't go away

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Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on March 09, 2012, 11:04:59 PM
Yeah, well, consider the source: Penn & Teller had this moron on the War on Drugs episode of Bullshit!
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 10, 2012, 01:49:08 AM
the mere fact that Joe Arpaio is mentioned creates enough bogons immediately around me to cause a black hole to explode.

I would love to see him on the bogosity podcast as an idiot extraordinaire.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: ebalosus on March 10, 2012, 02:05:34 AM
C'mon guys, there's nothing wrong with conspiracy theories. Just view them like I do: real world alternate-history fan fiction  :P

In all seriousness, what does Obama's birth certificate have to do with anything? News flash to the "birthers": Everything done during the Obama presidency cannot be undone (in that we have to live with the consequences). They should realise that the problem isn't necessarily which jerk is in the whitehouse, but the current entire paradigm of the US government.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: MrBogosity on March 10, 2012, 07:24:19 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on March 10, 2012, 01:49:08 AM
the mere fact that Joe Arpaio is mentioned creates enough bogons immediately around me to cause a black hole to explode.

I would love to see him on the bogosity podcast as an idiot extraordinaire.

Way ahead of you.
Title: Re: Obama Birth Certificate
Post by: Ibrahim90 on March 10, 2012, 07:36:06 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on March 10, 2012, 07:24:19 AM
Way ahead of you.

I'll treat it as a birthday present :P