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Title: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 27, 2011, 07:56:19 PM
Play the Podcast (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bogosity-podcast/~5/Wrr3YTU4WvI/BogosityPodcast-3-28-2011.mp3)

News of the Bogus:


Biggest Bogon Emitter: Pat Robertson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0nAq7BEnZY

Silver Cluon Award: Randall Monroe http://blog.xkcd.com/2011/03/19/radiation-chart/

Idiot Extraordinare:
Russell Blaylock


This week's quote: "The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts; they alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering." --Doctor Who ("The Face of Evil" by Chris Boucher)
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 27, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
I watched a Stossel report about Canadian air traffic control.  When the new private owners came in, what they found was terrifying.  The state ATC's were passing around strips of paper to communicate with each other, their radar was still using vacuum tubes, yes the same ones we took out of our TV's years ago and the radar tower itself was so out of date that they had to demolish the whole thing and rebuild it.

No wonder people are afraid to fly.


Correct me if I'm wrong but...according to the DoJ's argument about the liberty dollar, Chuckee Cheese are counterfeiting no?
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 27, 2011, 10:25:57 PM
Good question. And what about American Express with their travellers checks?
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: VectorM on March 28, 2011, 04:53:37 AM
How privatized is the Canadian traffic control exactly? What I mean is, does the government still have strict control over what they do and what company gets to work where? You know, the type of private, where you are essentially given a monopoly, or the government regulates you so much, that you might as well not bother.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 28, 2011, 06:41:12 AM
I think they probably do have a monopoly at least over their particular airports. But it seems to be closer than any other system on the planet.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 28, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Heh, I just noticed you said the year was 2001 in the date.  Oops
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 28, 2011, 10:31:44 PM
I did? When?
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 29, 2011, 01:28:06 PM
Dammit, I DID say that! How did I miss it the several times I listened to it? Damn bogons...

EDIT: Fixed with the magic of clever editing.  ;)
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Virgil0211 on March 29, 2011, 05:58:53 PM
Where can I make a nomination for next week's idiot extraordinaire? In particular, DavidJohnWellman for his series of videos on what he calls 'Randroids' and his attempts to legitimize the social contract and make it seem voluntary?

Quote from: MrBogosity on March 29, 2011, 01:28:06 PM
Dammit, I DID say that! How did I miss it the several times I listened to it? Damn bogons...

EDIT: Fixed with the magic of clever editing.  ;)

Audio/video editing n00b question: How'd you do that?

And remember, I'm the guy who couldn't figure out how to recreate the dalek voice effect. =P
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 29, 2011, 06:22:38 PM
Send the nomination--with links to relevant videos AND the timecodes of the segments--to podcast@bogosity.tv.

I took the "March 2011" from the previous podcast and stripped it in. The sibilant consonants ("ch," "t," "s," etc.) provide excellent edit points to stick it in, so I had several choices.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 29, 2011, 06:24:43 PM
Oh, and the Dalek effect is done with a ring modulator. Set it around 20-30Hz.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 30, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
I will personally back this nomination myself as well.  My fav part is his response to my pointing out that the state violates it's end of "social contract" anyway.

"Well there's checks and balances, hur hur!"

Yeah, is that why Bush is on trial for war crimes and repeated violations of the constitution?  Oh wait, no he isn't you retard!  ><
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 30, 2011, 01:00:59 PM
So please link me to videos with starting times. I have neither the time nor (I'm guessing) the desire to wade through all of his crap.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Travis Retriever on March 30, 2011, 03:44:21 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 30, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
I will personally back this nomination myself as well.  My fav part is his response to my pointing out that the state violates it's end of "social contract" anyway.

"Well there's checks and balances, hur hur!"

Yeah, is that why Bush is on trial for war crimes and repeated violations of the constitution?  Oh wait, no he isn't you retard!  ><

And don't even get me started on his fucktarded subscriber base.
*cough*bdf2718*cough*
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 31, 2011, 01:56:18 AM
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7txUSPbBp8
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7txUSPbBp8
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7txUSPbBp8
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMI8aCH1MaM&feature=related
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3S_mlOwNVc&feature=related
Not all that much of substance to pick apart.  He basically makes up excuses to justify "the social contract" as he goes along.

My reply: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEdhZIUNsCo
Of particular note, in the comments here, watch how Virgil explains why the social contract as David defines it is illegal and would never fly in a court of law and David simply blows him off and demonstrates utter ignorance of how contract law works.
He also claims that the constitution and the bill of rights is the social contract and I explained to him that those, if anything, are contracts the government swears to, not the citizenry.  He has not responded.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on March 31, 2011, 04:14:24 AM
I watched the first part, since it wasn't that long. There's enough for me to make the basic arguments against the Social Contract. So unless you can tell me anything in the remaining parts that's worth including, I think I'll go with that.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on March 31, 2011, 10:29:02 AM
He pretty much just repeats his arguments in subsequent videos, making excuses as he goes along.  The bit in the comments of my vid is notable in that Virgil tries to explain the legal problems with his argument but David's having none of it.
In vid 4, he responds to my point that even if the social contract were legit, the state violates it's end anyway and gets away with it by simply saying "There's checks and balances" and goes into no further detail.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Virgil0211 on April 01, 2011, 02:11:37 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 31, 2011, 10:29:02 AM
He pretty much just repeats his arguments in subsequent videos, making excuses as he goes along.  The bit in the comments of my vid is notable in that Virgil tries to explain the legal problems with his argument but David's having none of it.
In vid 4, he responds to my point that even if the social contract were legit, the state violates it's end anyway and gets away with it by simply saying "There's checks and balances" and goes into no further detail.

I finally got his attention, or so I thought, in the comments of vid 5. Finally launched into a detailed explanation of the concepts and how they applied with enough detail that he couldn't claim some loophole or misunderstanding...

...then he blocked me for making a multi-part comment. No warning, no response to the data, etc. Just a block.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 03, 2011, 07:31:51 AM
I don't know if I'm late to the nuclear party but...
I think that comparison with the ISS astronauts is a bit lacking as the astronauts actually sign up to be up there, they know beforehand that they're gonna be bombarded by radiation.
Which is a bit different from signing up to be a fireman or ambulance driver or, i dunno, a fisherman who happens to have the misfortune that his family set up their business in a place where a reactor was built a hundred years later.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on April 03, 2011, 08:29:21 AM
Believe me, workers at nuclear plants know EXACTLY what they're getting themselves into. They go through years of training in dealing with potential situations, and all of the ramifications of them.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 03, 2011, 10:58:47 AM
Reminds me of this cracked article:  http://www.cracked.com/article_18849_6-statistically-full-s2321t-dangers-media-loves-to-hype_p2.html
Scroll down to #1.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 03, 2011, 11:09:46 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 03, 2011, 08:29:21 AM
Believe me, workers at nuclear plants know EXACTLY what they're getting themselves into. They go through years of training in dealing with potential situations, and all of the ramifications of them.

Yeeeeees, too bad I wasn't talking about them, isn't it?
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on April 03, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
Well, I was when I made the comment you were responding to.
Title: Re: Podcast for 3-28-2011
Post by: Gumba Masta on April 03, 2011, 01:11:33 PM
I know, that was my bloody point! All these people know what kind of dangers they put themselfs in, but what about the people that suddenly have to deal with a giant, desasterous nature based "FUCK YOU" shout out? People that don't usualy work with radioactive shit like that suddenly have to deal with it because there's no other option cause it spills out. I mean sure that stuff most probably wont inconvinience most of the people on earth  noticably but that doesn't really matter much for the people that are there right now. Giant earthquake yeah that was bad enough in and of itself, giant tsunami, well that pretty much took the cake for the local armageddon impersonation contest. But the nuclear shit that hit the fan? How many of the people that're gonna have their live and that of their descendants fucked up by this have signed up for that kind of "situation"?