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Title: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: valvatica on June 29, 2010, 11:05:25 PM
http://www.leftycartoons.com/the-24-types-of-libertarian/

Don't worry, I've identified all the strawmen already but I did want to point out that associating Libertarians with incognito Republicans seems to be a common theme. Admittedly though, most of the types in the cartoon have nothing to do with libertarianism and easily apply to other political views of those who wish to co-opt the term libertarian.

This was posted on PZ Myer's blog by the way. I don't have the kind of endurance some of you have for posting comments; maybe this will be fun?

Update: Many people in the comments have said a virus appears when clicking on the link. Never happened with me, but just in case, someone in the comments uploaded the comic to an Image Shack link (can't remember which comment but go to the blog entry comments and it's there).
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: 11mc22 on June 29, 2010, 11:24:36 PM
Stoned
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 30, 2010, 12:08:50 AM
My virus scanner didn't detect anything.

Anyways...

So how many strawmen, ad hominem tu quoques, appeal to ridicule, and overall unwarranted self importance can you find in these?
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 30, 2010, 12:22:04 AM
EDIT:
OK, now my my anti virus is saying ten threats found.
Odd. O_o
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 30, 2010, 12:42:01 AM
Here's the link to the blog entry by PZ Meyers: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/06/a_taxonomy_of_libertarians.php#comments
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: VectorM on June 30, 2010, 03:39:30 AM
I am using NOD32 and it blocked something from that site o.0

And reading everything else on that site makes my brain hurt already. I really hate you now valvatica.

And the "BIZARRELY HYPOCRITICAL" one shows this guy has no idea what he is talking about. And people whine when people like us put leftists in the same boat as the Soviets.

And btw, what is the point of the script just under every cartoon?
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: valvatica on June 30, 2010, 04:31:55 AM
The art kicks ass, you gotta admit.
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: MrBogosity on June 30, 2010, 05:55:25 AM
Did anyone else's Irony Meter explode on the "arrogant" one?
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Gumba Masta on June 30, 2010, 07:27:02 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 30, 2010, 05:55:25 AM
Did anyone else's Irony Meter explode on the "arrogant" one?
Ha! Not mine. I'm a german, born and raised in switzerland. I'm made from sterner stuff.
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 30, 2010, 11:26:03 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 30, 2010, 05:55:25 AMDid anyone else's Irony Meter explode on the "arrogant" one?
Yes...
That one was painful.

Although the "TOO SMART FOR SCIENCE" panel reminded me of HowTheWorldWorks and Stefan Molyneux.
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 30, 2010, 11:32:05 AM
Eh?  What's wrong with them disagreeing with global warming?  I agree it's probably a grain of truth buried under a mountain of BS.
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 01, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
And from the people who brought you, "The 24 Types of Libertarian" comes

http://www.leftycartoons.com/top-ten-reasons-to-be-against-single-payer-health-care/
"Top Ten Reasons To Be Against Single-Payer Health Care".
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: MrBogosity on July 01, 2010, 09:37:22 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on July 01, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
And from the people who brought you, "The 24 Types of Libertarian" comes

http://www.leftycartoons.com/top-ten-reasons-to-be-against-single-payer-health-care/
"Top Ten Reasons To Be Against Single-Payer Health Care".

To summarize:

1: Strawman
2: Strawman
3: Strawman
4: Strawman
5: Strawman
6: Strawman
7: Strawman
8: Strawman
9: Strawman
10: Strawman
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: valvatica on July 01, 2010, 09:55:44 PM
Again, the art kicks ass but they're all terrible strawmen like you said. It's sad that many on YouTube have seen by now (e.g. your two-part video) that there are options out there BESIDES current-system vs. government-run (sucky vs. sucky) and STILL cling to this bill of goods.
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 02, 2010, 01:36:20 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 01, 2010, 09:37:22 PM
To summarize:

1: Strawman
2: Strawman
3: Strawman
4: Strawman
5: Strawman
6: Strawman
7: Strawman
8: Strawman
9: Strawman
10: Strawman


Well, number 4 is better described as "The race card!  What's in YOUR wallet?"
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: MrBogosity on July 02, 2010, 06:12:23 AM
And what about #3? How do these people have the audacity to blame the market for HMOs? What the *&^% do they think the 1973 HMO Act was?
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 02, 2010, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 02, 2010, 06:12:23 AM
And what about #3? How do these people have the audacity to blame the market for HMOs? What the *&^% do they think the 1973 HMO Act was?

"La la la!  I can't hear you!"

Something along those lines no doubt.
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 02, 2010, 08:27:27 AM
But arent there people who are like that and consider themselfs to be libertarians?
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 02, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
Guess who also saw it?
The folks at the mises institute forum.
One of them made this: http://i.imgur.com/2axVG.png
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 03, 2010, 02:48:06 AM
Oh look, it has the same "I'm too smart to make a good joke" vibe as the original.
Well done.
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: VectorM on July 03, 2010, 02:57:47 AM
Quote from: Gumba Masta on July 03, 2010, 02:48:06 AM
Oh look, it has the same "I'm too smart to make a good joke" vibe as the original.
Well done.

It's satire :)
Title: Re: The 24 Types of Libertarian
Post by: Gumba Masta on July 03, 2010, 03:06:50 AM
Which one of the two?  :P