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News of the Bogus:
- Fruit smugglers 'upgrade' Russian border road http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-37166353
- Fruit Smugglers Build a Road over the Russia-Belarus Border Overnight http://www.autoevolution.com/news/fruit-smugglers-build-a-road-over-the-russia-belarus-border-overnight-110606.html
- Adobe to Pay $1 Million for Data Breach, Bolster Security, AG Cooper Says http://www.ncdoj.gov/News-and-Alerts/News-Releases-and-Advisories/Press-Releases/Adobe-to-pay-$1-million-for-data-breach,-bolster-s.aspx
- Muhammad Was A Feminist http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-garrison/muhammad-was-a-feminist_b_12638112.html
Biggest Bogon Emitter: Barack Obama https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161118/17160636087/president-obama-claims-he-cannot-pardon-snowden-hes-wrong.shtml
Idiot Extraordinaire: Jason Easley http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/09/proof-jill-stein-gary-johnson-cost-hillary-clinton-election.html
Tag: Joe Show - جو شو│الحلقة 23│الضباط داخلين الجنة - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szud-pfEVA
This Week's Quote: "I'm embarrassed for my country that in my entire voting life, there has never been a major-party candidate whom I felt I could vote for." —John Perry Barlow
This. This is one of MANY reasons why libertarians hate Obama. Because of shit like this.
IIRC, Presidential Pardons are actually quite limited in any case. For instance, they shouldn't be able to prevent a prosecution, because unlike a State pardon for a State crime, a Presidential pardon doesn't make it legally as if the crime never happened, just lifts the penalties applied. (In combination with the Executive authority to not prosecute, the effect is the same if the case has not been tried yet, but I know of nothing that would prevent Trump from having a Special Prosecutor try Clinton over the email server and numerous associated crimes even if she had been pardoned, although she herself might be immune from actual punishment. That would, however, do absolutely nothing to protect anyone who was or should have been aware of the illegal nature of the server and was legally obliged to report it and didn't. As this would almost certainly include many high-level government officials, including Obama himself, it occurs to be that this would be a splendid way to arrange for a massive clearance of the upper levels of the US government. It would also probably take the entire term, so he's right to say it isn't a high priority. This is more of a wind-it-up-and-set-it-off thing that just works it's way through most of it's job without much general interest until it gets to filing charges.)
(And, for the record, this is NOTHING like a banana republic scenario where political opponents are arbitrarily jailed. What he's always talked about is the full, formal process of holding a senior official criminally responsible for their wrongdoings.)
Incidentally, anyone else take a peak of George Takei's blatherings about things recently? He's pretending David Patreus pleading guilty to improperly handling classified materials (by having them locked in a desk in his office in his highly-guarded home) is somehow the same as Hillary illegally using a private, incompetently managed and extremely insecure email server to handle classified materials in an apparent attempt to evade FOIA disclosure requirements, then not only failing to turn over subpoenaed documents but actually deliberately destroying many of the subpoenaed documents such that it isn't even possible to properly assess the damage she has done. Oh, and he managed to make a tweet about the Ohio State terrorist attack that can be interpreted as him either being a complete imbecile for thinking the attacker used a gun or being a complete monster for lamenting the fact the attacker was shot and killed within seconds of starting his rampage.
Quote from: evensgrey on December 01, 2016, 04:08:34 PM
IIRC, Presidential Pardons are actually quite limited in any case. For instance, they shouldn't be able to prevent a prosecution, because unlike a State pardon for a State crime, a Presidential pardon doesn't make it legally as if the crime never happened, just lifts the penalties applied.
That isn't the case. Listen to our coverage. We go over the limitations, and there aren't many. They absolutely can be used to prevent a prosecution, and it does make it as if the crime--or at least the conviction--never happened.
QuoteI know of nothing that would prevent Trump from having a Special Prosecutor try Clinton over the email server and numerous associated crimes even if she had been pardoned
Nope, if she's pardoned, she can't be tried. She can be prohibited from holding office or having a security clearance, but she can't be tried criminally.
Quote from: evensgrey on December 01, 2016, 04:08:34 PM
Incidentally, anyone else take a peak of George Takei's blatherings about things recently? He's pretending David Patreus pleading guilty to improperly handling classified materials (by having them locked in a desk in his office in his highly-guarded home) is somehow the same as Hillary illegally using a private, incompetently managed and extremely insecure email server to handle classified materials in an apparent attempt to evade FOIA disclosure requirements, then not only failing to turn over subpoenaed documents but actually deliberately destroying many of the subpoenaed documents such that it isn't even possible to properly assess the damage she has done. Oh, and he managed to make a tweet about the Ohio State terrorist attack that can be interpreted as him either being a complete imbecile for thinking the attacker used a gun or being a complete monster for lamenting the fact the attacker was shot and killed within seconds of starting his rampage.
Just saw that.
Anyone who did a simple google search would know that it was a knife and vehicle attack. Of course, a problem emerges when you try to google it: when you type "Ohio State" followed by a spacebar it suggests "shooting". If you take that, it'll take you to the correct web-pages.
I'm at least thankful no one so far has died, aside from the attacker.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/us/ohio-state-university-attack/
I saw a news story yesterday that makes me think we're upset at Obama for the wrong reason in this instance.
In the context of the story, it appears Obama may have not being paying attention and mistook a question about PARDONING Snowden for a question about doing the same for him that he had just done for Chelsea Manning in commuting her sentence. Clearly, he cannot commute the sentence for a crime that hasn't even been tried yet.
So, just maybe, he was being an incompetent listener rather than an incompetent lawyer.
Quote from: evensgrey on January 19, 2017, 08:54:25 AM
I saw a news story yesterday that makes me think we're upset at Obama for the wrong reason in this instance.
In the context of the story, it appears Obama may have not being paying attention and mistook a question about PARDONING Snowden for a question about doing the same for him that he had just done for Chelsea Manning in commuting her sentence. Clearly, he cannot commute the sentence for a crime that hasn't even been tried yet.
So, just maybe, he was being an incompetent listener rather than an incompetent lawyer.
That is certainly possible.