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Title: Podcast for 16 May 2016
Post by: MrBogosity on May 15, 2016, 06:00:01 PM
[mp3]http://media.blubrry.com/bogosity/p/podcast.bogosity.tv/mp3s/BogosityPodcast-2016-05-16.mp3[/mp3]


News of the Bogus:
15:57 - Biggest Bogon Emitter: Paramount Pictures https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160508/00545234378/fight-over-copyrighting-klingon-heats-up-gets-more-ridiculous.shtml

25:08 - Idiot Extraordinaire: Colorado State University-Pueblo https://reason.com/blog/2016/04/19/female-student-said-im-fine-and-i-wasnt

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Title: Re: Podcast for 16 May 2016
Post by: evensgrey on May 16, 2016, 10:00:07 AM
Apparently, there's some much better reasons why maybe the whole Axanar business wasn't a good idea (relating to the fact that they're trying to us the fanfilm as a startup project for a studio, with the crowd funding going for acquiring the space and equipment, and setting up the studio, as well as making the project, and the project would then serve as a demonstration of their skills, which as a whole some people find objectionable), but pretending to copyright a language is just bloody stupid.  (Incidentally, I've got a copy of the Klingon dictionary, which includes a discussion of how the linguist they hired started with the arbitrary phrases in ST:TMP and went from there to develop an alien language by, among other things, using the principle that it should have sound combinations not normally used in human languages, and should use the least common grammatical structures of human languages, including going so far as to not have a verb equivalent to 'to be', and folding the concept of existence into the pronouns.  I wish we had the same kind of information for Tolkien's linguistic creations.)

If you have the stomach for it, you can make a reasonably good living by speaking Klingon (or Quenya, or Sindarian).  It takes a strong stomach because you're acting as a translator in mental hospitals, facilitating treatment sessions for people who have become convinced they are Klingons (or elves) and are so far into their delusion that they are only able to communicate in the fictional language.  (Yes, this is very severe illness, but at least there's still a way in to them.  The really bad ones are the ones who don't communicate at all.  There isn't much you can do to treat someone who won't interact with you.)
Title: Re: Podcast for 16 May 2016
Post by: MrBogosity on May 16, 2016, 04:08:55 PM
I've had a couple of different chances to talk to Marc Okrand. It's fascinating how it was a combination of what he wanted the language to be, what the screenwriters needed to say, and dealing with how it actually came out after the actors and editors got through with it.

It was James Doohan who made up the Klingon for TMP, and Okrand devised the Vulcan in TWoK, which (and this is easy to see if you turn the sound off and read their lips) was filmed in English, and Okrand had to come up with Vulcan-sounding syllables that would match their lips.
Title: Re: Podcast for 16 May 2016
Post by: Ibrahim90 on May 16, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
I know the name of the woman who gave Guido a bad day:

Avery D. Umbitch...