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#GamerGate Special

Co-Hosts: Dave Turcotte and Jonathan Loesche

Guest: Matthew Page http://superplexbros.com/

• 10 things you need to know about #GamerGate http://whatculture.com/gaming/10-things-need-know-gamergate-scandal.php
• The Gamer is Dead, Long Live The Gamer http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/09/01/the-gamer-is-dead-long-live-the-gamer/
• Borderlands 2 Writer confirms further corruption in Gaming Journalism http://superplexbros.com/borderlands-2-writer-confirms-further-corruption-in-gaming-journalism/

• Gamergate - Know Your Meme http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/gamergate
• Fraud in the Indie World: Fez investors outed as judges for title's award http://gamesnosh.com/fez-investors-outed-judges-2011-igf-award/
• "I want a straight white male gaming convention": Inside the culture war raging in the video gaming world http://www.salon.com/2014/09/08/i_want_a_straight_white_male_gaming_convention_how_a_culture_war_exploded_in_the_video_gaming_world/
• Lara Croft Evolution: http://tombraiders.net/stella/images/timeline/lara_croft_evolution_new.jpg
• Adult women are now the largest demographic in gaming http://www.dailydot.com/geek/adult-women-largest-gaming-demographic/

This Week's Quote: "Journalganda...it looks like news! But it isn't. It's propaganda...There's nothing like journalganda to make you feel absolutely certain you are correct, no matter what your position...Real journalism can always be identified by the way it makes normal people sometimes feel very uncomfortable about the world." —Charles M. Madigan

One more reason I refuse to watch the news.  Better a head that's empty than one that's full of shit.

Great show, everyone. :)  Glad to know what happened from folks who know what they're talking about. :)

I'm just gonna casually point out that the Bogosity podcast is available for listen on our website (http://superplexbros.com/the-superplex-bros-join-the-bogosity-podcast/).

Shill all day every day.

Quote from: D on September 14, 2014, 04:23:54 PM
I'm just gonna casually point out that the Bogosity podcast is available for listen on our website (http://superplexbros.com/the-superplex-bros-join-the-bogosity-podcast/).

Shill all day every day.

You're just so shilly...

Quote from: MrBogosity on September 14, 2014, 04:27:49 PM
You're just so shilly...

Even shill, it had to be done.

This is something that has always bothered me about the anti-fun crowd--whether it be fundies or feminists--even IF what they say is true about our favorite source of fun being not nice.  Who gives a shit?  It's not harming anyone, so STFU.  If they don't like it, don't participate in it.  Savvy?

@Entire podcast, especially the bit Dave said at the ending:  "STANDING OVATION with whistling!*  Well said everyone. :) First podcast on this site I've listened to in AGES.  It was good to hear something so close to my heart and to my lifelong hobby of 20 years (I'm 26 btw).

Are all the images of Laura from the box art?  I haven't played any of the games in a long time, but her breasts weren't that round in the first game, only on the box.  (She had a quite low poly count in the first game, and they tended to put them on bits that moved.)

I found this screenshot from the first Tomb Raider. Yeah, it's definitely a poly count thing:

(http://apixelatedview.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Tomb-Raider-1.jpg)

Dave, you're the one who made the claim about female gamers, so perhaps you should respond to these:

https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=9PB7mOUcnCY

Quote from: MinerVerseWomen are the majority of gamers if you count people who play Farmville or FreeCell. The term "gamer" is not appropriate to use for someone who plays this kind of game. In the same way that a comic geek is not the same as someone who reads Calvin & Hobbes or Dilbert.

Quote from: kokofan50I don't like calling a bunch of middle aged women who play candycrush gamers. They take no interest in the gaming continuity, nor do they care about games other than the cute little apps they can buy on their phone. That's not to say they should be ignored or disparaged, but simply I don't think the title gamer is the apt word for that group.

Quote from: MrBogosity on September 15, 2014, 06:38:38 AM
Dave, you're the one who made the claim about female gamers, so perhaps you should respond to these:

https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=9PB7mOUcnCY

Yeah, those comments are just the comments of elitist pricks who don't like casual gamers being a part of their precious club.

Here's a source by the way on that claim:
http://www.dailydot.com/geek/adult-women-largest-gaming-demographic/

Quote from: D on September 15, 2014, 06:45:12 AM
Yeah, those comments are just the comments of elitist pricks who don't like casual gamers being a part of their precious club.

Here's a source by the way on that claim:
http://www.dailydot.com/geek/adult-women-largest-gaming-demographic/

Added to the show notes. Thanks!

Quote from: MrBogosity on September 14, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
I found this screenshot from the first Tomb Raider. Yeah, it's definitely a poly count thing:

(http://apixelatedview.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Tomb-Raider-1.jpg)

Not to mention normal maps weren't in use.

I'd forgotten how nasty the graphics were back then.

I see now why Angelina Jolie was cast as Laura croft...

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 15, 2014, 09:09:03 AM
I see now why Angelina Jolie was cast as Laura croft...

There's NOTHING wrong with Angelina Jolie's poly count!

Quote from: MrBogosity on September 15, 2014, 09:43:06 AM
There's NOTHING wrong with Angelina Jolie's poly count!

How does she look post-surgery?  It is most unfortunate it was needed, they were extremely nice examples.

Quote from: evensgrey on September 15, 2014, 02:03:13 PM
How does she look post-surgery?  It is most unfortunate it was needed, they were extremely nice examples.

Judging by the dress she wore to the Oscars, they still are.

Quote from: MrBogosity on September 15, 2014, 09:43:06 AM
There's NOTHING wrong with Angelina Jolie's poly count!

I know: that was my point :P