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Title: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 08, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Here's a topic for everybody to talk role playing. The title is inspired by a discussion of wether Paladins can be anarchist/libertarians.

I am going to be GM-ing a play by post pathfinder game that my girlfriend and I made in the link below. We currently have two accepted players. One is a halfling rogue, the other is a lizard-folk bloodrager (like a hybrid of barbarian and sorcerer). I am willing to take 3 more players if anyone is interested. I'll be posting a link to the RP once it gets approved at the rpgcrossing forum.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j9i5KkyjwOi3XlHQxX9e3Yd8VzQ9wA6OKzWqmIxXc2M/edit?usp=docslist_api
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 08, 2014, 09:21:25 PM
Heres an ad topic of the game where you guys can post

http://www.rpgcrossing.com/showthread.php?t=147893
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: BlameThe1st on July 11, 2014, 05:02:08 PM
Sorry. Had to make the reference:

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Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 11, 2014, 06:29:29 PM
Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 11, 2014, 05:02:08 PM
Sorry. Had to make the reference:

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Someone HAD to say it. :P
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 11, 2014, 07:52:28 PM
I knew someone would say it xD

Btw my campaign has started. I got room for one more player of any of you wants to join.

http://www.rpgcrossing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13049
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 16, 2014, 09:40:41 PM
The book of exalted deeds does address this at one part when talking about the issue of "What if an authority figure tells a paladin to do something unethical?"

The answer is simply: A corrupt figure is not legitimate authority and the paladin is right to expose them.

That should answer it.  If a paladin must choose between the law and his own conscience, the latter wins.
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: Skm1091 on July 16, 2014, 10:49:16 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 16, 2014, 09:40:41 PM
The book of exalted deeds does address this at one part when talking about the issue of "What if an authority figure tells a paladin to do something unethical?"

The answer is simply: A corrupt figure is not legitimate authority and the paladin is right to expose them.

That should answer it.  If a paladin must choose between the law and his own conscience, the latter wins.

that would be neutral good or chaotic good on the D&D alignment, right?
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 16, 2014, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on July 16, 2014, 10:49:16 PM
that would be neutral good or chaotic good on the D&D alignment, right?

No, he does uphold the law and all.  Just that he believes law exists to serve the cause of good.  If the law is not doing that, it is not valid and must be addressed.
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: MrBogosity on July 17, 2014, 07:22:06 AM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 16, 2014, 11:59:06 PM
No, he does uphold the law and all.  Just that he believes law exists to serve the cause of good.  If the law is not doing that, it is not valid and must be addressed.

So he's Lawful in the way Frédéric Bastiat or Bernard de la Paz was.
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: Travis Retriever on July 17, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on July 17, 2014, 07:22:06 AM
So he's Lawful in the way Frédéric Bastiat or Bernard de la Paz was.
I didn't know those two were lawful in that way.
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: MrBogosity on July 17, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 17, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
I didn't know those two were lawful in that way.

Of course they were. Both viewed the law as something that transcends government and is a necessary component of freedom. If we contrast that view of the law with "statutes," words on paper written by the state which passes for "the law," the statutes are only valid insofar as they follow the law. When they don't, they are tyrannical rules that should not be tolerated by free people. That's essentially how Hawkeye just described the Paladin.
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 23, 2014, 10:00:10 PM
So my group in town tends to play 4e. I have a really good GM and bearable players (roll-players instead of roleplayers). I do admit that the combat system is simple and streamlined but thats not what im looking for. If theres one thing that i have against 4e its the narrow character options and too many feats. I did find that I really like playing a thief character and the GM provides plenty of opportunity for roleplay, but i don't just want to play the same kind of character all the time so well see when we get there :T
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 23, 2014, 10:07:58 PM
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Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 24, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
http://vimeo.com/101589754

Speaking of which what is everones favorite classes? :3
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on July 24, 2014, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: AnCapBrony on July 24, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
http://vimeo.com/101589754

Speaking of which what is everones favorite classes? :3

Probably paladin and no I don't play a lawful good prick.  Hate those people.
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 24, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on July 24, 2014, 09:24:24 PM
Probably paladin and no I don't play a lawful good prick.  Hate those people.

The fighter in my group is kind of like that. Makes it hard for me to play an anti-hero. As if i didn't have enough character options in 4e >.>
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on July 27, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
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I figure this would be fitting following my recent bowing out of my 4e group. I was like "Yeah im game for anything else but this game sucks :T"
Title: Re: What's an anarchist Paladin?
Post by: ArtemisVale on August 20, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
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