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Title: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
Anyone heard of the 'Blood Moon' prophecy that supposed to come this passover?
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 12:33:31 PM
There's a total lunar eclipse (often called a Blood Moon because of the red umbra) on the 14th-15th of this month. This is the first in a rare sequence of four  eclipses.

Complete idiots read Joel 2:31 ("The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come") and think this means the end of the world. The fact that the eclipse happens to correspond with the first day of passover just heightens the lunacy.

Passover ends April 22. There's a partial solar eclipse on the 29th. Close enough for superstitious morons.

October 11-15 is the Jewish feast of Tabernacles. This is in between the third eclipse (total lunar) on October 8th and a partial solar eclipse on October 23rd.

Of course, the REAL reason for all these eclipses is that the moon's orbit—~5° to the ecliptic—just happens to very nearly cross the line between the Earth and the sun, as illustrated here: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OHfigures/OH2014-Fig01.pdf
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: evensgrey on April 06, 2014, 12:37:14 PM
Something big is always happening in the Middle East, and most of the significant events involve Israel in some way, if only because any unpredictable changes are a hazard when you're a small country in the middle of a region where all the other countries hate you more than each other.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 01:05:38 PM
No kidding.

If we had a nickel for everytime a prophesy flopped we would be in 0.00000000000001 percent by now
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 01:05:38 PM
No kidding.

If we had a nickel for everytime a prophesy flopped we would be in 0.00000000000001 percent by now
Hell, if we had a penny for every time one of the prophesy's believers backpeddled we'd be the richest that ever will walk the face of the earth.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Hell, if we had a penny for every time one of the prophesy's believers backpeddled we'd be the richest that ever will walk the face of the earth.

Harold Camping Anyone. He said the end was in 1994 and then when that backfired he said it was in 2011
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Hell, if we had a penny for every time one of the prophesy's believers backpeddled we'd be the richest that ever will walk the face of the earth.

Hey, how about this: if I had a satoshi for every time that happened, I'd BE Satoshi!
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 01:37:33 PM
Hey, how about this: if I had a satoshi for every time that happened, I'd BE Satoshi!

(http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/ordinateurs/pancartes/lmao.gif)

BTW I just found out the ones who are pushing the blood moon thing. John Hagee and Mark Blitz.

Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 06, 2014, 04:35:11 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 12:33:31 PM
There's a total lunar eclipse (often called a Blood Moon because of the red umbra) on the 14th-15th of this month. This is the first in a rare sequence of four  eclipses.

Complete idiots read Joel 2:31 ("The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come") and think this means the end of the world. The fact that the eclipse happens to correspond with the first day of passover just heightens the lunacy.

Passover ends April 22. There's a partial solar eclipse on the 29th. Close enough for superstitious morons.

October 11-15 is the Jewish feast of Tabernacles. This is in between the third eclipse (total lunar) on October 8th and a partial solar eclipse on October 23rd.

Of course, the REAL reason for all these eclipses is that the moon's orbit—~5° to the ecliptic—just happens to very nearly cross the line between the Earth and the sun, as illustrated here: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OHfigures/OH2014-Fig01.pdf

wait, there's a total lunar eclipse on the 14th-15th? will it be over the US? I'm hoping to see one in Texas or New Mexico--the two places I keep traveling to.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 06, 2014, 04:35:11 PM
wait, there's a total lunar eclipse on the 14th-15th? will it be over the US? I'm hoping to see one in Texas or New Mexico--the two places I keep traveling to.

And supposedly it's suppose to trigger a prophecy of the end of the world. *rolls eyes* *groan*
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 06, 2014, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
And supposedly it's suppose to trigger a prophecy of the end of the world. *rolls eyes* *groan*

I don't care about the world supposedly ending--it's obviously not going to happen: I just want to know if the Eclipse will be over Texas and/or New Mexico then.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 06, 2014, 04:45:52 PM
I don't care about the world supposedly ending--it's obviously not going to happen: I just want to know if the Eclipse will be over Texas and/or New Mexico then.

This might help

http://www.vercalendario.info/en/moon/united_states-15-april-2014.html
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: evensgrey on April 06, 2014, 05:17:41 PM
Quote from: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
This might help

http://www.vercalendario.info/en/moon/united_states-15-april-2014.html

Short version, this eclipse should be visible across North America, provided you have clear skies.  In my experience, spring skies are normally clear in Texas and New Mexico. (Yes, I've been in both states in the early spring.)
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: MrBogosity on April 06, 2014, 05:35:29 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 06, 2014, 04:35:11 PM
wait, there's a total lunar eclipse on the 14th-15th? will it be over the US? I'm hoping to see one in Texas or New Mexico--the two places I keep traveling to.

Info is in the PDF I linked to.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 06, 2014, 05:46:14 PM
Oh, gods, I just hope Alex Jones isn't going off about it, given that it happens on/around Tax Day (April 15th).
Gods, if they really wanted to help the libertarian movement, they'd switch sides. >.<*
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 06, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
The verse about the moon seems pretty vague, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: dallen68 on April 06, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
As far as prophesy-bible stuff goes, the verse about the moon seems pretty specific, :-o ! (Cue cat walking on electric keyboard)
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: BreadGod on April 08, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
The only thing I know about the blood moon is that it was an expansion to an Elder Scrolls game.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Travis Retriever on April 08, 2014, 09:35:22 PM
Quote from: BreadGod on April 08, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
The only thing I know about the blood moon is that it was an expansion to an Elder Scrolls game.
And that it was a random event in Terraria with increased mob spawns.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Skm1091 on April 14, 2014, 06:25:35 PM
http://www.universetoday.com/110868/the-science-behind-the-blood-moon-tetrad-and-why-lunar-eclipses-dont-mean-the-end-of-the-world/
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 14, 2014, 06:37:29 PM
well, I'll be watching the blood moon tonight. looking forward to it.

the itinerary is straightfoward:

~10PM: mobilize camera, phone, and computer
~midnight: watch in wonder and record footage.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: MrBogosity on April 14, 2014, 07:50:16 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 14, 2014, 06:37:29 PM
well, I'll be watching the blood moon tonight. looking forward to it.

I won't; cloudy and rainy. :(

Quotethe itinerary is straightfoward:

~10PM: mobilize camera, phone, and computer
~midnight: watch in wonder and record footage.

I did this one a few years ago:

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Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 14, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
yep--I was thinking something along these lines. probably not as comprehensive though: perhaps an hour or so's worth of pictures (every 5 or so minutes), centered round the maximum.

EDIT: have the pictures. not as a regular as yours Shane (and not professionally done), but they look decent.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: MrBogosity on April 15, 2014, 06:11:11 AM
Only problem with mine is, I don't have a zoom lens tight enough to get the moon very large in the frame. So I still get a low-res shot even with a high-megapixel camera.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: evensgrey on April 15, 2014, 08:08:36 AM
No joy for me, either.  Low swept in overnight, and the barometer and thermometer are both dropping fast.

Yesterday afternoon, we had a forecast high of 24C.  This afternoon, a forecast low of -8C. This is only the second time I can recall ever experiencing this large a temperature swing in 24 hours.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2014, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 15, 2014, 06:11:11 AM
Only problem with mine is, I don't have a zoom lens tight enough to get the moon very large in the frame. So I still get a low-res shot even with a high-megapixel camera.

yeah, most of the "regular" cameras are like that--mine is no different.

what I was able to do was get relatively illuminated pictures of the moon, but to do that I had to really ramp up the settings for this.

success rate was not as good as hoped--close to 70% (the other 30% were deleted, or left in for lack of a better option). but the ones that worked out are nice.

anyways, here's the photographs:


the blue dot to the lower-right of the moon is Spica: it's been nicknamed by us observing "the blue bitch"--a reference to the nickname given to the Asari by Tyrannicon's TJ Laser (and mainly because it grabbed as much attention as the main event).

http://s260.photobucket.com/user/Ibrahim_059/slideshow/15th%20of%20April%20Eclipse

pictures are from the Office in Midland, TX. the light part you see at the bottom of the moon in the later stages from from the office lights (couldn't get them switched off).

EDIT: also saw Mars and Saturn, but they were just dots in the sky, so I didn't bother with pictures
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: MrBogosity on April 15, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2014, 03:55:31 PM
the blue dot to the lower-right of the moon is Spica: it's been nicknamed by us observing "the blue bitch"--a reference to the nickname given to the Asari by Tyrannicon's TJ Laser (and mainly because it grabbed as much attention as the main event).

Looks like you got h Vir – HIP 66098 as well in some of the photos. Nice work!

I noticed some were out of focus; with the moon, you should be able to just focus out to infinity and leave it. Also, a tripod would be good to reduce camera shake.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2014, 04:59:59 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on April 15, 2014, 04:40:58 PM
Looks like you got h Vir – HIP 66098 as well in some of the photos. Nice work!

I noticed some were out of focus; with the moon, you should be able to just focus out to infinity and leave it. Also, a tripod would be good to reduce camera shake.

did both: problem is having to adjust the Shutter speed and aperture for a darker and darker moon means longer exposure times. the slightest movement, either from the wind, me, or the Moon, completely wonks it out. And in fact the moon itself was the real pain in the ass: it moves across the camera's field of view in 20-30 minutes: it can move right through the focal point in under 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: MrBogosity on April 15, 2014, 05:04:24 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2014, 04:59:59 PM
did both: problem is having to adjust the Shutter speed and aperture for a darker and darker moon means longer exposure times. the slightest movement, either from the wind, me, or the Moon, completely wonks it out. And in fact the moon itself was the real pain in the ass: it moves across the camera's field of view in 20-30 minutes: it can move right through the focal point in under 5 minutes.

Yeah, that's why I took a series of photos instead of trying to video it. Plus, there were clouds, and I had to keep snapping the pictures during the breaks between them...

I'd love to do it again on a clear night with a nice high-apterture zoom lens.
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2014, 05:35:25 PM
frankly, I'm particularly proud of pictures of the red phase 29, 39 and 42 (of the 42 uploaded): the moon's details are clear, as is Spica's beautiful blue-white color. looking at the photos, 76 Vir does look conspicuous right above the Moon, though I didn't notice it at the time (being such a dim star in comparison). its dimness really puts the size of the galaxy into perspective, when one remembers its a yellow giant--bigger and absolutely brighter than the sun (it's 235 LY from the sun).

my one regret though of the even it really that I couldn't take pictures of Mars, or of Saturn: both were so dim that long exposures respectively created red and tan streaks  (though it did reveal the Milky way in the process--barely).

Virginis 76 needs an Arabic name though. we call the constellation al-3adhra' (lit. the virgin), or as-sunbulah (lit. corn-ear), and Spica as-sammak al-'a3zal (lit. the unarmed fisherman). maybe I should call it "as-samak as-sakhir (the mocking fish), and the star next over (82 Virginis) "as-samak aj-jaban" (the cowardly fish).
Title: Re: Blood Moon Prophecy
Post by: Ibrahim90 on April 15, 2014, 10:24:03 PM
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EDIT: silly me! forgot: this is a video I made about it for Youtube. let me know what you think about presentation, choices, mistakes. hope to do the same for the whole tetrad.