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Title: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: tnu on November 27, 2013, 02:46:31 PM
Just curious to get the opinions of ebveryone here. What are your opinions  on the divide between Rothbardian and Tuckerite schools of free market anarchism?
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2013, 05:56:48 PM
What's the difference between them?
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 06:50:57 PM
I think that's what he's asking.
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: MrBogosity on November 27, 2013, 06:54:37 PM
Rothbardian = homesteading

Tuckerian = might makes right
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 27, 2013, 06:54:37 PM
Rothbardian = homesteading

Tuckerian = might makes right
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Rothbardian then.  Holy shit.  Might makes right is *not* a can of worms that should be opened.
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
Actually, might makes right are what a lot of people are afraid of when they think libertarian. (I.E. there's no police to stop your neighbor from taking your shit, if you're not strong enough to stop him... and no court to go to after the fact.)
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2013, 07:03:22 PM
Quote from: dallen68 on November 27, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
Actually, might makes right are what a lot of people are afraid of when they think libertarian. (I.E. there's no police to stop your neighbor from taking your shit, if you're not strong enough to stop him... and no court to go to after the fact.)
The fact that those same people support a state which is the living institutional embodiment of might makes right shows they don't give two shits about that; it's just a knee-jerk reaction.

"Anarchists did not try to carry out genocide against the Armenians in Turkey; they did not deliberately starve millions of Ukrainians; they did not create a system of death camps to kill Jews, gypsies, and Slavs in Europe; they did not fire-bomb scores of large German and Japanese cities and drop nuclear bombs on two of them; they did not carry out a Great Leap Forward that killed scores of millions of Chinese; they did not attempt to kill everybody with any appreciable education in Cambodia; they did not launch one aggressive war after another; they did not implement trade sanctions that killed perhaps 500,000 Iraqi children. In debates between anarchists and statists, the burden of proof clearly should rest on those who place their trust in the state. Anarchy's mayhem is wholly conjectural; the state's mayhem is undeniably, factually horrendous." —Robert Higgs
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: tnu on November 27, 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Actually I was asking everybody's thoughts on the divide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-market_anarchism

Think Benjamine Tucker and Lysander Spooner Vs. Murray Rothbard and David Friedman.
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: ArtemisVale on November 27, 2013, 07:37:04 PM
By Tuckerian do you mean jeffrey tucker or is there someone else?

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Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: Travis Retriever on November 27, 2013, 07:37:51 PM
Quote from: tnu on November 27, 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Actually I was asking everybody's thoughts on the divide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-market_anarchism

Think Benjamine Tucker and Lysander Spooner Vs. Murray Rothbard and David Friedman.
It says Tucker is a mutualist in terms of land.  Yeah, I think that's bogus. If I'm not using a factory because it's shut down while me and my workers are on Christmas vacation it doesn't logically follow that the factory is unowned during that time.

@AnCapBrony--he said Benjamin Tucker, not Jeffrey Tucker.  Yeah, I thought he was talking about Jeffrey Tucker too, at first.  It's an easy misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: nilecroc on December 01, 2013, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: T dog on November 27, 2013, 07:37:51 PM
It says Tucker is a mutualist in terms of land.  Yeah, I think that's bogus. If I'm not using a factory because it's shut down while me and my workers are on Christmas vacation it doesn't logically follow that the factory is unowned during that time.

@AnCapBrony--he said Benjamin Tucker, not Jeffrey Tucker.  Yeah, I thought he was talking about Jeffrey Tucker too, at first.  It's an easy misunderstanding.
Your're not using your computer right now. Hand it over.
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: ArtemisVale on December 01, 2013, 11:01:56 AM
Quote from: nilecroc on December 01, 2013, 01:14:22 AM
Your're not using your computer right now. Hand it over.
Thats personal property! You can only take private property!

p.s. personal property is whatever i don't want you to take.
Title: Re: Rothbardian Vs. Tuckerite
Post by: Travis Retriever on December 01, 2013, 11:34:34 AM
Quote from: nilecroc on December 01, 2013, 01:14:22 AM
Your're not using your computer right now. Hand it over.
To them I'd say, "You're not using your ass.   Bend over."