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Title: So what does the UN arms treaty actaully do?
Post by: nilecroc on September 24, 2013, 07:55:29 PM
I just read a post by Gun Rights on facebook that said Kerry was going to sign it tomorrow, and I'm to lazy to look it up. Does anyone know what it says?
Title: Re: So what does the UN arms treaty actaully do?
Post by: Ibrahim90 on September 25, 2013, 12:21:40 AM
here's what it's meant to do (from Wikipedia. though double checked):

Quote from: WikipediaInternational non-government and human rights organizations including Amnesty International, Oxfam, the Arias Foundation for Peace and Human Progress, Saferworld and the International Action Network on Small Arms (who lead the Control Arms Campaign) have developed analysis on what an effective Arms Trade Treaty would look like.[29]
It would ensure that no transfer is permitted if there is substantial risk that it is likely to:
be used in serious violations of international human rights or humanitarian law, or acts of genocide or crimes against humanity;
facilitate terrorist attacks, a pattern of gender-based violence, violent crime or organized crime;
violate United Nations Charter obligations, including UN arms embargoes;
be diverted from its stated recipient;
adversely affect regional security; or
seriously impair poverty reduction or socioeconomic development.
Loopholes would be minimized. It would include:
all weapons—including all military, security and police arms, related equipment and ammunition, components, expertise, and production equipment;
all types of transfer—including import, export, re-export, temporary transfer and transshipment, in the state sanctioned and commercial trade, plus transfers of technology, loans, gifts and aid; and
all transactions—including those by dealers and brokers, and those providing technical assistance, training, transport, storage, finance and security.
The Amnesty International website "loopholes" include shotguns marketed for deer hunting that are virtually the same as military/police shotguns and rifles marketed for long range target shooting that are virtually the same as military/police sniper rifles. AI advocates that the civilian guns must be included in any workable arms trade controls; otherwise, governments could authorize export/import of sporting guns virtually the same as military/police weapons in function.[30]
It must be workable and enforceable. It must:
provide guidelines for the treaty's full, clear implementation;
ensure transparency—including full annual reports of national arms transfers;
have an effective mechanism to monitor compliance;
ensure accountability—with provisions for adjudication, dispute settlement and sanctions;
include a comprehensive framework for international cooperation and assistance.
NGOs are also advocating that the Arms Trade Treaty must reinforce existing responsibilities to assist survivors of armed violence, as well as identify new avenues to address suffering and trauma.
The U.S. NGO Second Amendment Foundation has voiced concern that a multinational treaty limiting the firearms trade might infringe on the constitutional right of private firearm ownership for self-defense in the US and other countries.[31]


here's what it's not meant to do:

Quote from: the UN"According to the UN Office for Disarmament Affairs, the treaty will not do any of the following: interfere with domestic arms commerce or the right to bear arms in Member States; ban the export of any type of weapon; harm States' legitimate right to self-defence; or undermine national arms regulation standards already in place."

Title: Re: So what does the UN arms treaty actaully do?
Post by: nilecroc on September 25, 2013, 10:52:09 AM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on September 25, 2013, 12:21:40 AM
here's what it's meant to do (from Wikipedia. though double checked):


here's what it's not meant to do:
Some of this seems pretty vague.
Title: Re: So what does the UN arms treaty actaully do?
Post by: MrBogosity on September 25, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
It reads a bit like North Carolina's Amendment One from 2012: This amendment violates contracts, but is not intended to violate contracts.