Thought this would make a nice reference to link people to in order to skip having to answer the same questions or accusations over and over.
Question: Well how are we supposed to do X without taxation?
Answer: If you're mugging people for a living and I tell you that you shouldn't do that because it's immoral, am I thus required to find you an alternate source of income lest you be free to continue mugging people?
Question: If you don't like the government, then why don't you move away?
Answer: If someone morally objects to government, it is THEIR obligation to move away? So with government approval rating at less than 10%, are you saying 90% of the country should leave?
Snark Alert!
Question: But government does x y and z, and these are things we all want!
Answer: If we all want them, then why do we have to use force to get them? Either we don't really want them, in which case the argument is invalid, or we do, in which case we'll work together to get them ourselves and we don't need government.
Typical statist remark: I'm okay with paying my fair share for government services!
Well if you're okay with paying for it, why do you need the government to provide it at the expense of others?
Typical statist remark: Libertarians are selfish because you don't wan't help people.
Yes, because wanting to keep my the money I earn is selfish, But, want wanting to take money from other's isn't. And how do you know I don't wanna help people?
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on October 25, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
Typical statist remark: Libertarians are selfish because you don't wan't help people.
Yes, because wanting to keep my the money I earn is selfish, But, want wanting to take money from other's isn't. And how do you know I don't wanna help people?
That is called presumption: it involves assuming dumbass assumptions.
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on October 25, 2012, 09:09:11 PM
That is called presumption: it involves assuming dumbass assumptions.
The point is to get them to dig their own holes.
This (http://v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies) will do.
Quote from: D on November 18, 2012, 07:38:39 PM
This (http://v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies) will do.
Sorry, but this one, at least, is a fail: http://v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies/ChristiansMustSubmit
Quote from: MrBogosity on November 18, 2012, 08:08:01 PM
Sorry, but this one, at least, is a fail: http://v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies/ChristiansMustSubmit
Yeah, it isn't perfect, but it's still a pretty good reference tool.
Rest is fine as far as I've seen. Love how it says Somalia is becoming the Godwin of anti-anarchism and points out that Somalia is a failed third world state.
Q: Without government, who will build the roads?
A: People who won't also indefinitely detain you, lock you away for having a plant in your pocket, and wage wars in your name.
Quote from: MrBogosity on December 30, 2012, 09:30:13 AM
Q: Without government, who will build the roads?
A: People who won't also indefinitely detain you, lock you away for having a plant in your pocket, and wage wars in your name.
Or force black people to pick your cotton.
How this and the other topic didn't go further I'll never know. Oh well. Revived for awesomeness. :)
Capitalism is bad because it's unfair!
And communist leaders initiating purges and causing famines and getting away with it is your idea of fairness?