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General Bogosity => General Discussion => Topic started by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 29, 2012, 05:21:35 PM

Title: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 29, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/china-condemns-u-s-gun-ownership-as-human-rights-violation

Anybody know The Chinese Crime rate vs the US?
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on August 29, 2012, 09:39:05 PM
Oh so you're going to have your police and military discard their guns and vow never to threaten people with bodily harm again because you care oh so much about such matters?

Didn't think so.
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 29, 2012, 11:51:59 PM
Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on August 29, 2012, 09:39:05 PM
Oh so you're going to have your police and military discard their guns and vow never to threaten people with bodily harm again because you care oh so much about such matters?

Didn't think so.

I doubt the officials who said this have ever held a gun.
I may be wrong.
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: Altimadark on August 29, 2012, 11:54:33 PM
I love how this was the recommended related story at the bottom of the article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/total-ban-fails-to-stop-chinese-gun-trade
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 30, 2012, 12:43:26 AM
Quote from: Altimadark on August 29, 2012, 11:54:33 PM
I love how this was the recommended related story at the bottom of the article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/total-ban-fails-to-stop-chinese-gun-trade

Hate to say it, But We told ya so.
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: Ibrahim90 on August 30, 2012, 12:51:05 AM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on August 30, 2012, 12:43:26 AM
Hate to say it, But We told ya so.

just goes to show: total ban is total fail...
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: evensgrey on August 31, 2012, 03:02:19 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on August 29, 2012, 11:51:59 PM
I doubt the officials who said this have ever held a gun.
I may be wrong.

A long time ago, I heard this quote, attributed to Madman Mao:

"Political power flows from the barrel of a gun.  It is our policy that we hold the gun."
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: evensgrey on August 31, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: Ibrahim90 on August 30, 2012, 12:51:05 AM
just goes to show: total ban is total fail...

Speaking of the total fail of a total ban...

Had the rate of violent crime involving handguns stopped going up in the UK yet?  As I recall, it started going up rather sharply after New Labour decided to ban all private ownership of handguns, and those were guns that couldn't have been acting as a deterrent, since the only place it was legally permissible to have a handgun before that was stored at a licensed shooting range.
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 31, 2012, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 31, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
Speaking of the total fail of a total ban...

Had the rate of violent crime involving handguns stopped going up in the UK yet?  As I recall, it started going up rather sharply after New Labour decided to ban all private ownership of handguns, and those were guns that couldn't have been acting as a deterrent, since the only place it was legally permissible to have a handgun before that was stored at a licensed shooting range.

I don't know about crimes with handguns going up, but robberies while people are home have gone up in the UK.
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: evensgrey on August 31, 2012, 11:38:42 PM
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on August 31, 2012, 05:27:03 PM
I don't know about crimes with handguns going up, but robberies while people are home have gone up in the UK.

And isn't that weird?  I doesn't even have anything to do with the gun ban, since even before that handguns were not in homes anyway, and the criminals knew it.  It isn't just the removal of guns, but the governmental mentality behind it (which seeks to appear to be doing something by going after the easy target of the law-abiding, while ignoring actual crime) that does things like that.
Title: Re: China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
Post by: R.E.H.W.R. on August 31, 2012, 11:45:33 PM
Quote from: evensgrey on August 31, 2012, 11:38:42 PM
And isn't that weird?  I doesn't even have anything to do with the gun ban, since even before that handguns were not in homes anyway, and the criminals knew it.  It isn't just the removal of guns, but the governmental mentality behind it (which seeks to appear to be doing something by going after the easy target of the law-abiding, while ignoring actual crime) that does things like that.

I guess its more of government fucking things up, as usual.