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Title: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on June 19, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
Play the Podcast (https://bogosity.podbean.com/mf/web/dryw7d/BogosityPodcast-6-20-2011.mp3)

News of the Bogus:


Biggest Bogon Emitter: Stella Morabito http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/06/why-libertarian-drive-repeal-doma-will-grow-leviathan

Idiot Extraordinaire: President Barack Obama http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/vp/43391550#43391550

This Week's Quote: "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." —F.A. Hayek
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 19, 2011, 05:14:16 PM
The Chicago story pisses me off on so many levels. Here in Connecticut, we had a similar problem where cops were trying to arrest people for recording them in public. If I'm not mistaken, we passed a law here stating that they can't do that. Cops are told that they should act as if they're always being recorded, which I find to be a good policy. Unfortunately, that still doesn't stop some members of law enforcement from being assholes.

The US History one doesn't surprise me really. Back when I was in high school, they taught us that the events happened, but never really went into details for the reasons why. They usually throw a few catchphrases like "Taxation without representation" or "Abe Lincoln freed the slaves" and call it a day.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2011, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on June 19, 2011, 05:14:16 PMThe Chicago story pisses me off on so many levels.

Ditto.


I've been boycotting the News Media for years now.  I can only handle so many bogons.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 19, 2011, 08:18:47 PM
It sounds like Stella Morabito is making the "power vacuum" argument that, if we get rid of that law, worse laws will end up taking its place--in the beginning of her rant at least.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 20, 2011, 09:21:14 AM
Oh, also, it should be noted that "No Child Left Behind" is partly to blame as well. Schools now primarily teach kids how to take regional tests, rather than how to actually think or provide knowledge. In fact, this nonsense was heavily enforced roughly around my sophomore year of high school. We'd take an entire marking period just for the sake of going over how to take the CAPT test, when we could be using that time to actually learn things.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on June 20, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on June 20, 2011, 09:21:14 AM
Oh, also, it should be noted that "No Child Left Behind" is partly to blame as well. Schools now primarily teach kids how to take regional tests, rather than how to actually think or provide knowledge.

That was the case LONG before NCLB (although that horrible law just made it worse).
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 20, 2011, 09:50:56 AM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 20, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
That was the case LONG before NCLB (although that horrible law just made it worse).

Yeah, they always emphasized on tests, but as you said, the insane law made it that much worse.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on June 20, 2011, 10:46:41 AM
In Florida we had a test called the FCAT that determined everything for a school. During elementary school practically the whole time between coming back from Christmas break until mid-March we would do nothing but take practice tests. History and Science were practically scrapped.

Hell even in high school that test was a pain in the butt. The year USA Today ranked my school as one of the 10 best high schools in the country, the state threatened to put the school "on probation" because they still took into account kids who had left the school as failing the test.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 20, 2011, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on June 20, 2011, 10:46:41 AM
In Florida we had a test called the FCAT that determined everything for a school. During elementary school practically the whole time between coming back from Christmas break until mid-March we would do nothing but take practice tests. History and Science were practically scrapped.

Hell even in high school that test was a pain in the butt. The year USA Today ranked my school as one of the 10 best high schools in the country, the state threatened to put the school "on probation" because they still took into account kids who had left the school as failing the test.


Yeah, here in Connecticut, 2nd, 4th, 6th, and 8th grade kids would take the Mastery Tests, and 10th graders would take the CAPT. In my high school, if you failed any part of the CAPT test, you either had to retake it or take a course to cover the failing grade. If you didn't do either, you wouldn't be allowed to graduate. Sophomores who got a 4 or a 5 out of 5 though didn't have to take the finals for those particular courses come junior year though.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 21, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
I posted the US History report on another site, and someone posted this video in response:

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So what are your opinions on this person's analysis of public education?
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 21, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on June 21, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
I posted the US History report on another site, and someone posted this video in response:

[yt]zDZFcDGpL4U[/yt]

So what are your opinions on this person's analysis of public education?

My doctor says I should limit my bogon intake, so I won't be watching that.  However, if it's like what I have seen from RSA Animate, it's going to be full of leftist crap, riddled with inconsistencies and contradictions and in some cases even pandering to creationists.  I am not kidding about that last one.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 21, 2011, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: surhotchaperchlorome on June 21, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
My doctor says I should limit my bogon intake, so I won't be watching that.  However, if it's like what I have seen from RSA Animate, it's going to be full of leftist crap, riddled with inconsistencies and contradictions and in some cases even pandering to creationists.  I am not kidding about that last one.

Yeah, one thing I caught in there that I didn't care for was the part where he kept complaining about this "one answer only" standard.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2011, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on June 21, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
I posted the US History report on another site, and someone posted this video in response:

[yt]zDZFcDGpL4U[/yt]

So what are your opinions on this person's analysis of public education?

Sounds right to me. Those RSA animations seem to be hit or miss, but I'd call this one a hit!
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2011, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: D.Turcotte on June 21, 2011, 01:55:44 PM
Yeah, one thing I caught in there that I didn't care for was the part where he kept complaining about this "one answer only" standard.

Well, there quite often ARE multiple answers--and even when there is only one objectively-right answer there are quite often multiple ways of arriving at that answer. Many tests seem to be more about reading the teacher's mind than about applying a correct answer.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 21, 2011, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: MrBogosity on June 21, 2011, 02:58:18 PM
Well, there quite often ARE multiple answers--and even when there is only one objectively-right answer there are quite often multiple ways of arriving at that answer. Many tests seem to be more about reading the teacher's mind than about applying a correct answer.

That reminds me of back in high school when I had points taken off of a test I had to take in sociology because I don't pay attention to school sports and got a question wrong about the school football team.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on June 21, 2011, 03:53:59 PM
Perfect example of what I'm talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometer_question
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: FSBlueApocalypse on June 26, 2011, 08:43:39 PM
No podcast today Shane? These have been the highlight of my Sundays
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: AnCap Dave on June 26, 2011, 08:44:59 PM
Quote from: FSBlueApocalypse on June 26, 2011, 08:43:39 PM
No podcast today Shane? These have been the highlight of my Sundays

This.

Nothing like relaxing at night while listening to the news of the bogus and eventually getting angry at the stupid that we constantly have to put up with.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on June 26, 2011, 09:40:19 PM
Sorry, unless you want to hear the freaky Stephen Hawking-esque voice doing it...
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: VectorM on June 27, 2011, 02:15:23 AM
Your voice is kaput?
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: MrBogosity on June 27, 2011, 06:43:52 AM
Yeah, has been since Wednesday.
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: Lord T Hawkeye on June 27, 2011, 05:47:31 PM
That sounds familiar.  Damn pneumonia
Title: Re: Podcast for 6-20-2011
Post by: Travis Retriever on June 27, 2011, 06:33:18 PM
Not necessarily a bad thing.  With all the talk of erosion of our liberty, it is nice to experience a break from that.  I can only handle so much rage in one month.