Podcast for 7-11-2011

Started by MrBogosity, July 10, 2011, 04:30:33 PM

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QuoteBut the point is that there was less enrollment before the law was passed. What, did people think that they can live without retirement, so that is why they did not enroll before?

Or maybe they went with one of the THOUSANDS of other retirement plans that are out there!

QuoteIt's whether or not people can make sound and educated decisions about their retirement. They have showed poor judgement in both instances,

So we need government to come in and be our mommies. If ANYONE'S shown an inability to make sound and educated decisions, it's politicians!

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 11, 2011, 09:25:30 PM
Or maybe they went with one of the THOUSANDS of other retirement plans that are out there!

So we need government to come in and be our mommies. If ANYONE'S shown an inability to make sound and educated decisions, it's politicians!

So apparently this guy thinks that the government is supposed to be the ultimate source of information:

QuoteThe issue was enrollment in any retirement plan, not merely a particular one (that is, before the law was passed).

The reason why governments can't seem to make the right decisions (if they wanted to) is because they do not deal with the people on the ground and the front lines of the issues. They have lost their touch with reality, and they see the problems through numbers, not by events. What I am saying is that the government should do what they do best- be an information and coordination hub, and the main regulator of economic conditions, to prevent social Darwinism, in the manner of speaking.In particular, if the problem is indeed general lack of care due to a misunderstood issue, then you make the people understand by informing them. This can only be done by a government that is aware, which sadly, not much governments are.

QuoteThe issue was enrollment in any retirement plan, not merely a particular one (that is, before the law was passed).

But the SOLUTION was automatic enrollment in a SPECIFIC retirement plan--their employer's 401(k) plan.

How can government prevent social Darwinism when government is the only way you can HAVE social Darwinism?

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 11, 2011, 07:56:49 AM
FSBlueApocalypse: Can you click the little mp3 player icon next to it and get the mp3 download directly?

Yes, that is working fine for me. Thanks

Quote from: MrBogosity on July 12, 2011, 07:58:02 AM
But the SOLUTION was automatic enrollment in a SPECIFIC retirement plan--their employer's 401(k) plan.

How can government prevent social Darwinism when government is the only way you can HAVE social Darwinism?

This guy is persistent.

QuoteWhich did not solve anything, nor made things worse- it just shifted the balance. It's because of that shift that we saw the actual issue. Granted, this is not a justification of the project itself, it's simply that the government tried to solve a bad situation, and it failed- it didn't create the problem.

Let me clarify on that.If two people work the same job, have the same health plan, but one loses his house due to fact he has cancer and can no longer afford the premiums, and society lets that happen, then that is social Darwinism. On a similar note, if you are bettered by your competitor in a free market system, destitution should not be the price that one has to pay for their inequities, no matter how big they are. The government is the only body with the power and the means to fill the gaps, which it doesn't do as well as it should. It has become cumbersome, ineffective and even a strain on the population. Therefore, a reform is required, but the term "less government" should be emphasized to mean "a more effective government", and "less involvement" should mean "proper involvement".

Um, no. Social Darwinism is stuff like eugenics and fascism. It's an attempt to manage society from the top down, either directly through the elimination of undesirables, or indirectly through their oppression.

What you're talking about is just bad things happening. Bad things ALWAYS happen.

QuoteOn a similar note, if you are bettered by your competitor in a free market system, destitution should not be the price that one has to pay for their inequities

It's not. Starting a new business is. What's the alternative, propping up the losers with taxpayer money?

July 15, 2011, 05:42:58 PM #21 Last Edit: July 15, 2011, 07:54:12 PM by D
Wow, this Casey Anthony shit is getting out of hand.

Source

Woman who looks like Casey Anthony and has a daughter named Caylee 'nearly killed after she was driven off the road'

QuoteAn Oklahoma woman said she could have died after a crazed woman who thought she was Casey Anthony chased her for miles and rammed her car off the road.

Sammay Blackwell, 26, said that the woman tried to kill her after she saw her working in a convenience store three days after the Florida mother was controversially found not guilty verdict of murdering her two-year-old daughter Caylee.

Shireen Nalley is accused of approaching Ms Blackwell in the store and telling her that she looked like Casey Anthony, before chasing her at the end of her shift and driving into her car.

Unbeknown to her alleged attacker, Ms Blackwell has a daughter named Caylee.

Ms Blackwell was working at the convenience store in Chouteau when Nalley came in at around 10pm last Friday.

She approached the store worker and allegedly told her, 'You look like Casey Anthony,' before leaving the store.

When Ms Blackwell finished worked at 10:30pm and began to drive her car away she spotted the woman watching her.

' began to back out and looked and I could tell she was staring directly at me. I could almost see the whites of her eyes,' said Ms Blackwell.

'I proceeded to pull out of the parking lot, and she was right behind me,' she told News 6.

Ms Blackwell said that the woman chased her down the road for several miles before suddenly ramming her van into the back of her truck.

'I said, "Oh my God, help me",' said Ms Blackwell.

She pulled into a parking lot to try to get away from her chaser, but Ms Nalley smashed into her car again.

'She hit me again, causing my vehicle to flip two and a half times, landing on the driver's side, and I just laid there playing dead,' said Ms Blackwell.

Police chased Ms Nalley and arrested her for assault and battery with a deadly weapon, leaving the scene of a vehicle collision, resisting arrest and reckless driving.

She told officers that she was 'trying to save the children'. Police said that she seemed to have taken drugs.

Ms Blackwell said: 'I don't look that much like her, so what about people who actually do look like her and live closer to Florida, instead of Oklahoma, what's going to happen to those people?'

Nalley is being held at Mayes County Jail.

Casey Anthony is due to be released from Orange County Jail in Florida on Sunday after she was found not guilty of killing her daughter.

It is reported that the 25-year-old may have surgery or use a disguise her to protect herself from possible attackers angry at the contentious verdict.



Quote from: D on July 15, 2011, 05:42:58 PM
Wow, this Casey Anthony shit is getting out of hand.

[url-http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2015138/Woman-looks-like-Casey-Anthony-attacked-Oklahoma-gas-station.html]Source[/url]

Woman who looks like Casey Anthony and has a daughter named Caylee 'nearly killed after she was driven off the road'





What.
The.
F#%&!?!?

Quote from: Virgil0211 on July 15, 2011, 07:30:53 PM

What.
The.
F#%&!?!?
My thoughts exactly.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Regarding the soap thing.  As the saying goes:  "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Virgil0211 on July 15, 2011, 07:30:53 PM

What.
The.
F#%&!?!?

Ah, I was reading that article and it seems that part about the resemblance was fabricated by a tv station.

Well I've just had this exchange with Cynthia Boaz on Twitter, which probably should belong in Fail Quotes:

Cynthia Boaz @NeVahDa @pennjillette Libertarianism is not abt wanting freedom. It's abt not wanting to be accountable. It's the most immature ideology.

Shane Killian @cynthiaboaz @pennjillette Libertarianism is all about accountability for our actions, Cynthia. Don't dis something you know nothing about.

Cynthia Boaz @shanedk The fact that I've drawn a conclusion abt libertarianism that differs from you doesn't mean I know nothing abt it. How narcissistic

Shane Killian @cynthiaboaz It's not narcissism when you display the same ignorance of Libertarianism that the creationists do of biology.

Cynthia Boaz @shanedk Explain to me exactly how Libertarianism is "all about accountability for our actions." I don't think you understand the concept.

Shane Killian @cynthiaboaz Read "Healing Our World," "Libertarianism in One Lesson," or "The Great Libertarian Offer."

Shane Killian @cynthiaboaz In fact, I'll help you out: here's the first edition of Healing Our World for FREE: ruwart.com/Healing/rutoc....

Shane Killian @cynthiaboaz Besides, YOU'RE the one making the claim: YOU need to prove it's about UNaccountability. And you CAN'T.


Haven't heard back from her yet. I guess she's happily reading away and will at any point tweet me with an apology and how she's been wrong...{cough cough}