Doctor Who

[Virgil0211]

Holy crap...

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2012/02/make_it_geronimo.php

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/10/scoop-doctor-who-star-trek-official-crossover/

For those who do not wish to linky...




This should be enough of an explanation. :-P

[FSBlueApocalypse]

Hah, nice. I guess you already have it pre-ordered

On another note, wondering just what the production team is up to. Confirmed they are filming 14 episodes plus a 50th anniversary specials. I just hope this isn't a precursor to Matt Smith leaving after Season 7 (or that 7 is going to serve as both the 2012 and 2013 episodes)

[MrBogosity]

No, Matt Smith has no plans to leave yet. He's still saying he'll take it one year at a time.

[Travis Retriever]

That "UUUUUNNNNNNNGGGGGH" sound I just heard was that of thousands of nerds creaming their pants.

[Ibrahim90]

That "UUUUUNNNNNNNGGGGGH" sound I just heard was that of thousands of nerds creaming their pants.

considering that the redhead is pretty cute, can't blame them.

that and the mere fact that this is Dr. Who in what I'm assuming is the star-ship Enterprise. Somewhere in Texas, my mom just died and went to heaven.

[Virgil0211]

That "UUUUUNNNNNNNGGGGGH" sound I just heard was that of thousands of nerds creaming their pants.

As if millions of voices cried out in joy and were suddenly exhausted...

Dear god. All we need now is a Who/Trek/B5/Star Wars crossover...

[Virgil0211]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/13/doctor-who-star-trek-crossover-will-bring-borg-cybermen/

This just in- the crossover shall feature Borg and Cybermen as the villains. Was hoping for borg/dalek, but you take what you can get, eh?

[evensgrey]

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/13/doctor-who-star-trek-crossover-will-bring-borg-cybermen/

This just in- the crossover shall feature Borg and Cybermen as the villains. Was hoping for borg/dalek, but you take what you can get, eh?

Daleks don't play well with others.

On the other hand, Borg and Cybermen are...compatible.

[Virgil0211]

Daleks don't play well with others.

On the other hand, Borg and Cybermen are...compatible.

Well, I meant 'Borg assimilate Daleks' rather than an outright team-up. Hell, I don't see a whole lot of ways that the Daleks would voluntarily team up with the Borg. The Borg assimilate because 'we are striving toward a state of perfection', and are at least theoretically built on the rather emotionless logic of the hive mind. Daleks exterminate because 'we are perfect and strive to impose our perfection on the imperfection of the universe' and are driven by fanatical bigotry and a lust for conquest. Any such alliances would be temporary at best, and would probably result in one trying to double cross the other. Either the Daleks manage to destroy the Borg, in which case it'd devolve into another 'Doctor VS Dalek' story and eliminate the motivation for a crossover, or the Borg assimilate the Daleks. At this point, the Borg would gain knowledge of the necessary technology for casual time travel, technology equivalent to a class III species (which, as far as I know, the Borg haven't quite achieved yet, at best being between class II and class III), and knowledge of the last great Time War (also, assuming this is in any way related to current continuity, knowledge from the Daleks who broke through the Time Lock). Imagine the reaction on the Doctor's face when he realizes that his greatest enemy will meet their final end only to give rise to something far more horrifying; A force with the massive numbers of the Cybermen equipped with the technology of the Daleks and the Time Lords, all the horrors of the war he sought so desperately to end that he sacrificed his own people to do it. A last ditch effort to stop the Borg from breaking the time lock, an apparent victory darkened by the realization that one small group of drones managed to break through, followed by the emergence of the Borg after consuming everything within. At the front, acting as a single voice to represent this new horde, the 9th Doctor flanked by The Master and Rassilon - all assimilated, and then the Borg standard hail is heard throughout the universe.

At least, that'd be my pitch to the studio if I were throwing out ideas. :-P

[Virgil0211]

Well, I meant 'Borg assimilate Daleks' rather than an outright team-up. Hell, I don't see a whole lot of ways that the Daleks would voluntarily team up with the Borg. The Borg assimilate because 'we are striving toward a state of perfection', and are at least theoretically built on the rather emotionless logic of the hive mind. Daleks exterminate because 'we are perfect and strive to impose our perfection on the imperfection of the universe' and are driven by fanatical bigotry and a lust for conquest. Any such alliances would be temporary at best, and would probably result in one trying to double cross the other. Either the Daleks manage to destroy the Borg, in which case it'd devolve into another 'Doctor VS Dalek' story and eliminate the motivation for a crossover, or the Borg assimilate the Daleks. At this point, the Borg would gain knowledge of the necessary technology for casual time travel, technology equivalent to a class III species (which, as far as I know, the Borg haven't quite achieved yet, at best being between class II and class III), and knowledge of the last great Time War (also, assuming this is in any way related to current continuity, knowledge from the Daleks who broke through the Time Lock). Imagine the reaction on the Doctor's face when he realizes that his greatest enemy will meet their final end only to give rise to something far more horrifying; A force with the massive numbers of the Cybermen equipped with the technology of the Daleks and the Time Lords, all the horrors of the war he sought so desperately to end that he sacrificed his own people to do it. A last ditch effort to stop the Borg from breaking the time lock, an apparent victory darkened by the realization that one small group of drones managed to break through, followed by the emergence of the Borg after consuming everything within. At the front, acting as a single voice to represent this new horde, the 9th Doctor flanked by The Master and Rassilon - all assimilated, and then the Borg standard hail is heard throughout the universe.

At least, that'd be my pitch to the studio if I were throwing out ideas. :-P

Further comment on above-

[spoiler]Y'know, I just realized that may be a bit too much. I mean, the only way out of that situation I can come up with that wouldn't feel like a cheat would be something like the Marvel Zombies universe, where the Borg actually win and manage to assimilate almost the entire population of both universes and then start looking for ways to cross between parallel worlds. Maybe have a last tragic confrontation between The Doctor and the Borg collective consciousness where the Doctor is in the midst of being assimilated and struggling to maintain control. You could end with either a hint that the Doctor isn't completely gone/under borg control, or a small hint that the next parallel world this new Borg inhabit might be the main universe. Or maybe have the Doctor resort to something stronger than what he used to end the last Time War, sacrificing this entire universe to destroy the Borg. Finding himself trapped in the void between worlds, he spends a long time contemplating his life, his actions, and where they've all led him. By the time he finally emerges from his exile, he starts to look quite a bit different... [/spoiler]

Where do you guys usually go for news about when the next Doctor Who episodes will air and what the general premise will be?

[Ibrahim90]

I dunno if that would work: the last attempt at a trans-universal merger in story form was IMHO opinion a complete disaster (Crisis on infinite earth IIRC- though it is DC, not marvel).

though if they can do it right, it would be awesome!

[evensgrey]

I dunno if that would work: the last attempt at a trans-universal merger in story form was IMHO opinion a complete disaster (Crisis on infinite earth IIRC- though it is DC, not marvel).

though if they can do it right, it would be awesome!

I always thought that the whole idea of Crisis was to fix the horrendous continuity mess DC had made for themselves out of sheer laziness (by not bothering to even try, while Marvel had people who's entire job was to try and prevent continuity errors from creeping in, which they were fairly good at, but not perfect).

It is, however, very, VERY hard to do a good crossover story.  The story is going to come across as, at minimum, very strange to at least one group of fans because it's going to not be in the normal style of at least one side in the crossover.

[Ibrahim90]

I always thought that the whole idea of Crisis was to fix the horrendous continuity mess DC had made for themselves out of sheer laziness (by not bothering to even try, while Marvel had people who's entire job was to try and prevent continuity errors from creeping in, which they were fairly good at, but not perfect).

It is, however, very, VERY hard to do a good crossover story.  The story is going to come across as, at minimum, very strange to at least one group of fans because it's going to not be in the normal style of at least one side in the crossover.

sorry for the delay here-just didn't see this thread till now. anyways:

you are right-it was written to sort out continuities*, but it still didn't work out: I say it ended badly, largely because it entailed afterwards that the events in the DC universe would jump ahead one year, and that in and of itself created some god-awful spinoffs (like countdown-another crossover*)-which only make the problem worse IMO. though I do admit, it did at least give us one good set: 52.

and herein lay the challenge: not only does it need to somehow be "normal" style to some of the fan-base, but also, it shouldn't be over developed into something that is a worse mess than before.

and don't get me started on Marvel: I'm still angry over it having spider-man selling his soul/marriage to the devil. srsly, what the hell?

*I personally count it as a crossover, as it entails people from other "earths" being involved in the story-an interdementional crossover.

[FSBlueApocalypse]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/doctor-who-jenna-louise-coleman_n_1369255.html

Jenna-Louise Coleman will be the next companion. Also, BIG spoiler for series 7 contained in BBC America's tweet

[FSBlueApocalypse]

Also Moffat confirmed what many have suspected, Series 7 will start in autumn with the new companion making her first appearance during the Christmas episode. 8 more episodes in the beginning of 2013 with more episodes to follow afterwards.