Podcast for 3-28-2011

[MrBogosity]

I watched the first part, since it wasn't that long. There's enough for me to make the basic arguments against the Social Contract. So unless you can tell me anything in the remaining parts that's worth including, I think I'll go with that.

[Lord T Hawkeye]

He pretty much just repeats his arguments in subsequent videos, making excuses as he goes along.  The bit in the comments of my vid is notable in that Virgil tries to explain the legal problems with his argument but David's having none of it.
In vid 4, he responds to my point that even if the social contract were legit, the state violates it's end anyway and gets away with it by simply saying "There's checks and balances" and goes into no further detail.

[Virgil0211]

He pretty much just repeats his arguments in subsequent videos, making excuses as he goes along.  The bit in the comments of my vid is notable in that Virgil tries to explain the legal problems with his argument but David's having none of it.
In vid 4, he responds to my point that even if the social contract were legit, the state violates it's end anyway and gets away with it by simply saying "There's checks and balances" and goes into no further detail.

I finally got his attention, or so I thought, in the comments of vid 5. Finally launched into a detailed explanation of the concepts and how they applied with enough detail that he couldn't claim some loophole or misunderstanding...

...then he blocked me for making a multi-part comment. No warning, no response to the data, etc. Just a block.

[Gumba Masta]

I don't know if I'm late to the nuclear party but...
I think that comparison with the ISS astronauts is a bit lacking as the astronauts actually sign up to be up there, they know beforehand that they're gonna be bombarded by radiation.
Which is a bit different from signing up to be a fireman or ambulance driver or, i dunno, a fisherman who happens to have the misfortune that his family set up their business in a place where a reactor was built a hundred years later.

[MrBogosity]

Believe me, workers at nuclear plants know EXACTLY what they're getting themselves into. They go through years of training in dealing with potential situations, and all of the ramifications of them.

[Travis Retriever]

Reminds me of this cracked article:  http://www.cracked.com/article_18849_6-statistically-full-s2321t-dangers-media-loves-to-hype_p2.html
Scroll down to #1.

[Gumba Masta]

Believe me, workers at nuclear plants know EXACTLY what they're getting themselves into. They go through years of training in dealing with potential situations, and all of the ramifications of them.

Yeeeeees, too bad I wasn't talking about them, isn't it?

[MrBogosity]

Well, I was when I made the comment you were responding to.

[Gumba Masta]

I know, that was my bloody point! All these people know what kind of dangers they put themselfs in, but what about the people that suddenly have to deal with a giant, desasterous nature based "FUCK YOU" shout out? People that don't usualy work with radioactive shit like that suddenly have to deal with it because there's no other option cause it spills out. I mean sure that stuff most probably wont inconvinience most of the people on earth  noticably but that doesn't really matter much for the people that are there right now. Giant earthquake yeah that was bad enough in and of itself, giant tsunami, well that pretty much took the cake for the local armageddon impersonation contest. But the nuclear shit that hit the fan? How many of the people that're gonna have their live and that of their descendants fucked up by this have signed up for that kind of "situation"?