the suspending of extantdodo (and maybe others)

Started by imorio, November 11, 2008, 03:56:53 PM

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Quote from: BZ987654 on November 12, 2008, 03:27:12 PM
They seem to not have enough

That's always the case unfortunately. That's the standard business model these days for bigger companies. Have shit load of clients/customers and under staff your customer service section to save on staffing costs. Online games are the same. A person could watch an ice-age pass while waiting for GMs to respond to a customer service request. It's the same with the Telco's, electricity companies, etc. The only companies who have good customer service are the small ones who can't afford to lose a single customer. And as soon as they grow to big companies, they stop giving a crap about the individual customer. You just can't get good customer service anymore. They're relying on peoples general apathy. Most people can't be arsed with the hassle so they just give up and let the company get away with what ever they're doing. So long as people still have their bright and shiny objects to appeal to their nano-second attention spans they're happy. Give 'em iPhones and reality TV and you can do just about anything you want to them.

Quote from: BZ987654 on November 12, 2008, 02:51:11 PM
Youtube seems very quick to pull the trigger and suspend accounts without looking into things.

They have to by law. The DMCA requires a take-down of at least 9 business days while the copyright issue is examined.

Quote from: Textra1 on November 12, 2008, 03:40:28 PMThat's always the case unfortunately. That's the standard business model these days for bigger companies. Have shit load of clients/customers and under staff your customer service section to save on staffing costs.

Let's not forget that YouTube provides its service for free.

Quote from: MrBogosity on November 12, 2008, 04:23:53 PM
They have to by law. The DMCA requires a take-down of at least 9 business days while the copyright issue is examined.

Do they have to suspend the account or just take down the video?

Quote from: BZ987654 on November 12, 2008, 08:03:17 PM
Do they have to suspend the account or just take down the video?

If it's one video, they take down the video. If it's a substantial amount of the user's videos, they have to suspend the user because of the likelihood of him uploading other "infringing" content.

It's TOTALLY stacked the deck towards the copyright holders, and almost completely blows away fair use.


Quote from: imorio on November 13, 2008, 03:40:25 PM
maybe material for a small bogosity episode?

Perhaps, if I can find some good video material.

Quote from: MrBogosity on November 13, 2008, 06:19:10 PM
Perhaps, if I can find some good video material.

There should be some, even though the best stuff may be currently unavailable.

Maybe a short one quoting and showing youtube's policy, laws on the matter and telling the extantdodo story with videos protesting his ban.

Part of the problem is how poorly YouTube is run. They have almost no real system for checking copyright claims, so almost anyone can take down videos if they claim to be a major company or corporation.