Need good examples for a vid idea

Started by Lord T Hawkeye, April 17, 2010, 01:52:12 AM

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I'm currently brainstorming for a video I'm calling "Practicing What you Preach"

It starts with the premise: When someone doesn't practice what they preach, the logical conclusion is that they don't actually believe what they preach.

What I mean here is, I want to discuss politicians and possibly others too who speak very highly of certain government programs and yet when given the choice themselves, do not utilize them.  The example most close to home for me is Canadian Healthcare and how our own PM didn't get on the waiting list when he had a problem and ditto for his daughter.

Anyone got other good ones?  People who preach about public schooling yet send their own kids to private schools?  Politicians who say social security is the best thing since super sliced bread yet don't invest in it themselves?  Anything along those lines.

Thanks
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

April 17, 2010, 02:02:40 AM #1 Last Edit: April 17, 2010, 02:10:28 AM by surhotchaperchlorome
It sounds based on the logical fallacy, Ad Hominem Tu Quoque, so I would be very weary about this.

But since you asked, I'm drawing a blank on other ideas. :(
I honestly don't run into that sort of thing very often and I normally don't care.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

I do state that it's not a hard and fast rule.  It's still a nice rule of thumb.  It's just something to think about.  If the proponents of socialistic ideas who know about these policies far more than we do don't actually believe in them themselves, why should we?

In other words, would you eat a meal from a chef who refused to taste his own cooking?
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

I think we need a definite line where this becomes fallacious: a politician not sending his child to a government school yet insisting that everyone else should is hypocritical, and it's not a fallacy to point out that they don't have the confidence in their own policies, or that they're only for "you people."

On the other hand, think of a man who owns a jewelry shop who isn't decked out in diamonds and gold necklaces. Just because he owns a jewelry store doesn't mean he'd just be able to take whatever he wanted from his stock. In this case it would be a fallacy to say, "See? He doesn't wear his own jewelry!" Same thing with a barber who doesn't cut his own hair; how can he?

The thing about the jewelry owner is that jewelry is more a matter of personal taste.  The fact that he doesn't wear it doesn't mean he doesn't have confidence in it.  It's likely simply case of the jewelry not being to his taste.

The distinction is that in the politican's case, they had to make a decision, capitalism or socialism, to serve their own needs.  And it seems they themselves tend to choose capitalism.

The chef example, yes it's possible that the meal is perfectly fine but...if the chef himself won't eat it, doesn't really inspire much confidence.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

@Shane: True.

@Lord T Hawkeye: Fair enough.

Does anyways else have any other examples of this?
Besides Education, Health Care and Social Security, I mean?

I thought about how many conservative politicians (e.g. George Bush Jr.) will preach of how they are for the free market, while doing and investing everything they can do stifle it.
Is this an example of what you're looking for?

What about Union Workers who protest Wal-Mart and other places like that and say "Buy American!", but when they lose, they still shop and use those stores and still purchase imports?
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Wal-mart protests, you don't even need to cite sources on that.  Communities like to protest them yet the fact that the store remains open demonstrates that the people ARE shopping there.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

"We don't want that store here!"

Then they wouldn't be building it. What they mean is, THEY don't want the store there, and they're presuming to speak for everyone.