Arguments employed by both statists and theists

[Travis Retriever]

You're cool.

How about when they say shit like, "Opinions are like assholes, everyone has them and they all stink", "I don't think people should argue about politics/religion; it just brings out the worst in people", "Religion/politics doesn't have a right or wrong answer, so there is no point in arguing it; you might as well have a wrestling match to decide who's right."; and then when you try to debate the points, either on religion, or economics, they go crazy, like that HeavyTrafficAhead asshole?

So basically, it's just projection.
If they can't handle a debate using actual *gasp* facts, logic and reason, then fuck off.

[MrBogosity]

Yes, they want the same out in politics that Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and others complaining about religious people taking: that you have to respect their opinion etc.

[Travis Retriever]

Though not one used by theists or creationists (that I know of anyways), it's still a very annoying argument:

How about when socialists resort to stupid rhetoric like "Wage slavery"?
Like this one picture I saw in a video rebutting the idea with a woman sitting thinking: "Wage-slavery or starvation?  That's not a choice, It's a threat!"
An idea that Me and Shane have both beaten to death in the comments to his videos.

[MrBogosity]

One more way the statists seem to be like the ultra-religious: Just as the ultra-religious seem not to have even read the Bible and understand little about what it says, the statists likewise seem not to have read the Constitution and understand little about what it says or even what it's for.

[MrBogosity]

Another similarity is, just as you can be whatever religion you want in a secular system but you can't be an atheist in a theocracy, you can practice whatever political philosophy you wish in a libertarian system but you can't practice libertarianism in a statist system.

[MrBogosity]

Here's something else I've noticed:

Every now and then, we get a creationist claiming he was once an atheist or "evolutionist" or whatever, but he's absolutely unable to speak intelligibly about the theory of evolution, or why atheists reject God, or whatever.

I also see statists claim that they used to be libertarians, but don't even seem to understand the basics of libertarian philosophy like the NIOF principle.