Fail Quotes

[evensgrey]

I can't be bothered to read anything that anyone has to say about atheism anymore ... It's so simple to understand and yet, some people can't stop inserting their own bullshit in the discussion ...

At least when atheists try and do that, the inherent herd-of-cats nature of any grouping based on a lack of belief ensures it explodes and demonstrates them to be stupid.

[Altimadark]

ThinkProgress: Why it's so difficult to be a working parent in America, in one (cherry-picked) Venn diagram

Related article: The Best And Worst States To Raise Kids (based on entirely superficial reasoning)

Summary: Most-all states are terrible places to raise kids because federal/state governments don't guarantee paid maternity/sick leave.

Bonus bogons go to various re-tweets for the usual reasons.

[Travis Retriever]

https://www.facebook.com/cody.mathison.3/posts/454291814733921?pnref=story

Not a fail in and of itself (Though I really don't get the being a nightowl bashing...how is that good or bad?) And I see where he's getting at, but...I will NEVER understand people who have this mentality, but are aren't against (and in the case of a UK furry are still for) government welfare schemes.  The "oh, that's fine, just don't use the money badly on video games, etc!"

Because of the way these programs are run and incentivized, what the hell do they think will happen?  For those who aren't familiar with the data, the poor just stay poor, their lives ruined for their feels.  It just shows they don't care about the poor.  They just nod at them getting state assistance for social acceptance.

I put my thoughts on the status as well in the comments:

Funny you should mention that:  https://sites.google.com/site/anthropomorphicresearch/past-results/anthrocon-2012-iarp-2-year-summary
The furry psychology section, especially that last one.
From what I understand furries are no more "broken/maladjusted" than the general population, with the exception of an increased chance of having Autism or a related disorder (e.g. Asperger's Syndrome) and are actually more likely to say they have a place or positive self identity or something like that.  You'd have to ask someone like Courtney 'Nuka' Plante (the person in charge of the studies) for more information.

The same research link showed that the average furry also tends to make about average income as the general population, so it's most likely just the people you're hanging around, or just confirmation bias, much like the media and furry sexuality (I'm pretty sure not all furs have fursuit sex).

On a related note, it's why I'm against government welfare/stuff in the first place.  How many people would even need it if we weren't taxed to pay for that, along with a bunch of wars and pork barrel boondoggles?  So yeah...An-cap fur here.

I will never understand how one can have the mentality of Cody's above post, but be okay with or for government welfare.  That mentality is like being for the slaughter of cows, but against the consumption of beef.  It makes zero sense.

I'm reminded of Harry Browne's old saying of, "Government breaks your leg, hands you a crutch and says, 'See? Without us, you couldn't walk!"  And instead of blaming the government, people like this tend to rant on the folks who had their leg broken by govco saying, "why do you not just work harder?"  Completely missing the big picture.  Saying, "well we can always shame them!" Will NOT change the fact that they've had their legs figuratively broken.  It might make them less likely to go on welfare or seek help, but the problem isn't "social acceptance" it's the government initiating force to begin with.  The people saying this sound like the "well I blame society" feminists.  If something isn't mathematically feasible or not will be unaffected by "but society thinks!" (which is a complete cop out anyways along with "common sense" or "God works in mysterious ways")  Not to mention completely putting the cart in front of the horse and confusing correlation with causation!  How many people would think that if there wasn't government welfare?  And notice how it only became a thing after govco's welfare was in full swing, after the destruction of capital that WOULD allow them to improve themselves?

Hence why I call it blaming the person who had his leg broken instead of blaming the guy who broke his leg in the first place.  Completely misses the forest for the trees.

The TL;DR version:  You don't shame or blame a person for breaking a window to get into a building if the only door is on the roof!

[AnCap Dave]

Putting Bob Murphy here because he's a dick with a bad sense of judgment.

He went to see the new Mad Max movie and walked out because it depicted a cruel society where Mohawk haired lunatics kill any man with a sense of values and kidnap any halfway decent looking woman. The only thing is, that's pretty much every Mad Max film ever made and it comes with the territory. I responded, saying that while it's perfectly fine if he didn't like the movie, walking out because it features something it featured in ALL the movies is like walking out of Planet of the Apes because it has apes. He responds with this douchebag snarky comment, then unfriends me and I can't directly respond back.



I didn't realize Bob was such a child.

[dallen68]

Combined BBE/IE/Douchebag of the Year nominee: Organized Labour & the City of Los Angeles:

Step One: Advocate for a $15/hr min. wage.

Step Two: Wait until it's virtually guaranteed that step one will happen.

Step Three: Advocate for an exemption to Step one for those that belong to your little group, and those who have agreements with them.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/05/27/los_angeles_15_minimum_wage_labor_unions_want_to_be_exempt_from_it.html?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5566813204d3014d00000001&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

[AdeptusHereticus]

Combined BBE/IE/Douchebag of the Year nominee: Organized Labour & the City of Los Angeles:

Step One: Advocate for a $15/hr min. wage.

Step Two: Wait until it's virtually guaranteed that step one will happen.

Step Three: Advocate for an exemption to Step one for those that belong to your little group, and those who have agreements with them.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/05/27/los_angeles_15_minimum_wage_labor_unions_want_to_be_exempt_from_it.html?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5566813204d3014d00000001&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Fuck that. It's making memories resurface ... In France, all the overtime is required by law to be paid with a bonus of 25% on the hourly wage. But of course, it's only required until collective bargaining happens ... In my old work, unions had negotiated overtime at half that rate. So we got a 12.5% bonus on our overtime ... For fuck's sake, those guys don't know what they are doing. If you aren't going to use the laws, then why making them in the first place ? If you want unions to bargain for their colleagues, then why not just do that and avoid all the unnecessary complications that comes with law making ? Of course, it doesn't explain why one would accept the idea of collective bargaining at all since logic tells us that unions can't possibly account for all the differences between individuals ...

When it was time to elect unions representatives, and talk about union stuff in general, there was always that one guy who was going to speak to everybody like we were all thinking the same way. He was coming to explain to you how we were being screwed and how his communists ideas were a no brainer ... Oh god ... Every fucking time I hear about union accomplishments in the news I cringe ... In my opinion, the worst unions might be the police unions, because they have the power to kickstart changes in the law, changes that could affects their work conditions, but are too focused on their navel. I mean, if they got legalization of drugs and prostitution, and such things, how much more time would they have to actually help people ? I'm guessing in those conditions, they would no longer complain about not having the means to do their jobs ... As an aside, that's one thing that's really bothering me : How can police unions don't realize that arresting peaceful citizen should NOT be their job ? (Of course I realize that at least some of them would answer, "the law is the law. you're not peaceful if you break the law" bla bla bla )

[dallen68]

While I am well aware this isn't the place for this: While SJW's are correct there is no "reverse" racism/sexism, it is not for the reasons they think true, either it's racism/sexism or the fuck it isn't. It does not MATTER who it's directed at

[evensgrey]

How can police unions don't realize that arresting peaceful citizen should NOT be their job ?

Police would prefer to arrest people who are unlikely to try to injure or kill them as a result.

[AdeptusHereticus]

Police would prefer to arrest people who are unlikely to try to injure or kill them as a result.

But a great deal of violence is caused by drugs being outlawed for example, so drugs being legal would result in fewer dangerous situations for cops ...

[AnCap Dave]

But a great deal of violence is caused by drugs being outlawed for example, so drugs being legal would result in fewer dangerous situations for cops ...

It would also result in a massive decrease in excuses for them to have bigger budgets, deadlier weapons, and more powerful vehicles.

They can't have that.

[AdeptusHereticus]

It would also result in a massive decrease in excuses for them to have bigger budgets, deadlier weapons, and more powerful vehicles.

They can't have that.

That raised an interesting question in my mind ... The spoke person for the main police union in France is well known. He appears regularly on TV and in other media ... I wonder what kind of cop he was before being a full time union representative ... I suppose it's plausible that cops with administrative jobs and cops in the field view things differently, but only the formers participate in the decisions ... Also, the cops that choose to work in drug law enforcement should be expected to view things differently than regular cops ... I never thought of it that way.

[AnCap Dave]

That raised an interesting question in my mind ... The spoke person for the main police union in France is well known. He appears regularly on TV and in other media ... I wonder what kind of cop he was before being a full time union representative ... I suppose it's plausible that cops with administrative jobs and cops in the field view things differently, but only the formers participate in the decisions ... Also, the cops that choose to work in drug law enforcement should be expected to view things differently than regular cops ... I never thought of it that way.

Yeah, the War on Drugs here and anywhere else is pretty much a big budget con job. The idea of actually caring about people who abused drugs is nothing but a farce.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

[Ibrahim90]

I seriously don't get the logic behind this: if it's part of the budget, it's part of the problem--no matter how insignificant.

[R.E.H.W.R.]