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March 31, 2015, 04:10:19 PM #7545
I can't see the post ... What could be the problem ?
March 31, 2015, 04:30:19 PM #7546
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on March 31, 2015, 04:10:19 PM
I can't see the post ... What could be the problem ?
It's set to friends only...and there is no option for it to be public for some reason. >.<*
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 31, 2015, 06:48:04 PM #7547 Last Edit: April 01, 2015, 02:56:58 PM by Travis Retriever
https://www.facebook.com/thefluffyfurrycreatures/posts/751659534931843 Since when is weight NOT a choice?  And how is appearance NOT a choice?

I'll also add that The Fluffy Furry Creatures' responses are all fails as far as I'm concerned.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 31, 2015, 07:39:42 PM #7548
MeGrendel here is SO full of himself in this thread:

http://www.i-am-bored.com/forums.asp?action=read&ct=10&q_id=108721&read_page=1#bottom

QuoteCajun247-"Do you have a point to make or are you simply going to argue semantics?"

The point is that:
1) Your opinion that calling them 'illegal' is disgraceful has no merit.
2) Your opinion that it should not be illegal for them to come here undocumented is, also, without merit and has no bearing on reality.

Cajun247-"do YOU think that any and all legal means should involve some form of documentation?"

Yes.

Cajun247-"If so, how much?"

At a bare minimum: Non-immigrant or Immigrant Visa, with the requirement of Family or Employer sponsor.

You know...Follow The Law...

Well NO DUH, it's my fucking opinion.  It is my opinion based on a careful analysis of the situation, you know an INFORMED opinion.
Working every day to expose the terrible price we pay for government.
March 31, 2015, 08:25:43 PM #7549
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 31, 2015, 06:48:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/thefluffyfurrycreatures/posts/751659534931843 Since when is weight a choice?  And how is appearance NOT a choice?

I'll also add that The Fluffy Furry Creatures' responses are all fails as far as I'm concerned.

I don't understand your discussion "Since when is weight a choice?"
The list provided says that weight is not a choice.
March 31, 2015, 08:28:50 PM #7550
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on March 31, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
I don't understand your discussion "Since when is weight a choice?"
The list provided says that weight is not a choice.
*Since when is weight NOT a choice.  Derp.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 31, 2015, 08:34:59 PM #7551
Quote from: Dallas Wildman on March 31, 2015, 07:39:42 PM

http://www.i-am-bored.com/forums.asp?action=read&ct=10&q_id=108721&read_page=1#bottom


Is it really a problem to call illegals "illegal" when they break the law of a given country when entering it ? I mean it's technically correct. Same thing goes for marijuana users or other such categories of offenses, that's technically illegal so why not be content with the word ? We all know here that the problem lies within the ideological minds that write the policies, not the principle of the law ... No ? In every case, the line exists only on paper. By the way, it's also the case for morally indefensible behaviour like murder. It's only illegal because there's a line that you're not supposed to cross defined in the text. It's because right and lawful are not necessarily synonymous.
March 31, 2015, 08:35:28 PM #7552
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 31, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
*Since when is weight NOT a choice.  Derp.

Thanks. I just wanted to be sure.
March 31, 2015, 08:39:47 PM #7553
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 31, 2015, 06:48:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/thefluffyfurrycreatures/posts/751659534931843 Since when is weight a choice?  And how is appearance NOT a choice?

I'll also add that The Fluffy Furry Creatures' responses are all fails as far as I'm concerned.

What made me laugh in that discussion :
"I'd believe the CDC over a random Fb Page, anyday ~K"

Or rather:
"If only this guy could have provided a peer reviewed source that we could use ... Too bad we don't have that. Also, too bad I don't have time to read more than 2 sentences."
March 31, 2015, 08:47:58 PM #7554
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on March 31, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
What made me laugh in that discussion :
"I'd believe the CDC over a random Fb Page, anyday ~K"

Or rather:
"If only this guy could have provided a peer reviewed source that we could use ... Too bad we don't have that. Also, too bad I don't have time to read more than 2 sentences."
Menno linked to a meta-analysis on the matter.  So either he's lying about reading the post or he's lying about what it said.  Complete tool.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 31, 2015, 08:53:50 PM #7555
That being said, I think your guy misread the abstract.

He says :
a huge team of researchers could only attribute 2.7% of BMI variation to genetics.

The abstract says:
"The 97 loci account for ~2.7% of BMI variation, and genome-wide estimates suggest that common variation accounts for >20% of BMI variation."

So, it would seem that other BMI-related loci exist elsewhere in the genome and they didn't control for those ... Why ? The abstract doesn't say.
The abstract doesn't mention the kind of phenomenons which produce the variations either ... Some might be harder to fight than others.
March 31, 2015, 08:57:22 PM #7556
I can't load the CDC PDF and I can't figure out why. Too bad.
March 31, 2015, 09:06:02 PM #7557
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on March 31, 2015, 08:53:50 PM
That being said, I think your guy misread the abstract.

He says :
a huge team of researchers could only attribute 2.7% of BMI variation to genetics.

The abstract says:
"The 97 loci account for ~2.7% of BMI variation, and genome-wide estimates suggest that common variation accounts for >20% of BMI variation."

So, it would seem that other BMI-related loci exist elsewhere in the genome and they didn't control for those ... Why ? The abstract doesn't say.
The abstract doesn't mention the kind of phenomenons which produce the variations either ... Some might be harder to fight than others.
Knowing Menno, he read the entire study, including the methodology.
Others brought up this in the comments, and he notes that:
"No, the 20% figure isn't correlated yet. It is extrapolated."

"An estimate is all it is at this moment. They can't even correlate it yet, let alone show causation."

And after being asked whether or not he thinks they're just guessing notes:
"I'm saying it's a best guess from limited data. Any correlations they do find will likely mostly be psychological anyway, notably appetite. Most of what they find even now is related to the nervous system, not metabolism. So then the correlation vs. causation part becomes much more important."
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537
March 31, 2015, 09:10:19 PM #7558
Quote from: AdeptusHereticus on March 31, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
It's because right and lawful are not necessarily synonymous.

But that's EXACTLY my point, there is nothing right about governments criminalizing marijuana use or uncontrolled immigration.  NOTHING at all, he thinks I'm idiot by arguing semantics.

Working every day to expose the terrible price we pay for government.
March 31, 2015, 09:13:20 PM #7559
Quote from: Travis Retriever on March 31, 2015, 09:06:02 PM
Knowing Menno, he read the entire study, including the methodology.
Others brought up this in the comments, and he notes that:
"No, the 20% figure isn't correlated yet. It is extrapolated."

"An estimate is all it is at this moment. They can't even correlate it yet, let alone show causation."

And after being asked whether or not he thinks they're just guessing notes:
"I'm saying it's a best guess from limited data. Any correlations they do find will likely mostly be psychological anyway, notably appetite. Most of what they find even now is related to the nervous system, not metabolism. So then the correlation vs. causation part becomes much more important."

It still looks a little cavalier to me but I don't have anything more to go on so ... I guess I can leave it at that.
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