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"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: AnCap Dave on March 22, 2015, 08:28:46 PM


Because gunning down mecha nazis is a sexual fetish of mine
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Quote from: AnCap Dave on March 22, 2015, 08:28:46 PM


Assuming this is true, wouldn't it be a GOOD thing?  Seriously, the fuck you complaining about?
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Considering these are people who want to define "rape" to mean anything they like, just like "harassment" is now defined, in most contexts, to mean "anything that someone might say or do that could possibly make me slightly uncomfortable"; they can blow it out there ass. If we're going to have a crime called "rape" it has to have a clear cut definition. If we're going to fire people because harassment, then that also must have a clear definition.



On a youtube thread, I asked the question "Why do we get handwaved as conspiracy theorists yet patriarchy theory gets a pass?"

Well, this gentleman took issue with that and simply accused me of having no idea what patriarchy theory is.

I responded with the good old Ayn Rand quote "They'll always tell you what it isn't, never what it is."

So I got this...

QuotePatriarchy is a concept that originates in feminist theory derived from ideas of hegemony outlined by Antonio Gramsci. In short Gramsci wrote of the larger body of social constructs that enforce the values of the ruling class on the rest of society. These are not necessarily things that people do to consciously further those thoughts, often disguised as assumptions and "common knowledge".

Feminist theory uses the term "Patriarchy" to discuss those aspects of hegemony which relate specifically to the enforcement of a gender-based hierarchy. As stated above, there is no real physical "embodiment" of these ideas, that is to say no cackling council of men yelling "BEAT WOMEN! CRUSH THEIR SPIRITS! AAAH HA HA HA HA!" (at least as far as I know). There are, however, pervasive, destructive and ridiculous assumptions that define gender relations in our culture. From the myth of Adam and Eve to shaming young boys by telling them they do things "like a girl", these reinforce ideas of man's natural dominance and woman's natural submission. And if you're noticing that the example I used is an idea that hurts men too ("you __ like a girl"), then you're starting to get the point. In short, patriarchy doesn't just hurt women, it hurts men.

As bell hooks noted in Understanding Patriarchy, "Patriarchy is the single most life-threatening social disease assaulting the male body and spirit in our nation." These roles don't just put men in "good" positions, so to speak, they posit the man as the epitome of logic and reason. Not only does that deny female rationality, it creates an environment where men expressing their emotions is considered "wrong", "weak" and "effeminate". Thus men do things like shrug off going to the doctor when they should (to be tough), bottle up their emotions, causing trauma (and abusive behavior in some case), and generally go through life trying to deny their emotional personhood.

There. I told you what it is, and even tied it back into equality-centered gender studies so you can't say I'm just advocating for female supremacy or whatever location you're no doubt going to try and move the goalposts to now.

Any questions?

Where do you even start with this?  Bald assertions all over the place including presupposing the very existence of patriarchy at all without evidence.  Terminology so vague it makes the bible look like a dictionary.
Not to mention "hit like a girl" being cited as some kind of evidence?  Why does "acting like a dick" get a pass?  Cherry picking if I ever saw it.

Equality driven gender studies course?  Don't make me laugh!  Those studies are ANYTHING but equality driven.  Sky ain't orange just because you say it is.
I recently heard that the word heretic is derived from the greek work heriticos which means "able to choose"
The more you know...

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 23, 2015, 09:46:51 PM

Equality driven gender studies course?  Don't make me laugh!  Those studies are ANYTHING but equality driven.  Sky ain't orange just because you say it is.

Unless I'm a SJW lexicographer, then I redefine "orange" to mean "the color the sky is at any given moment of my convenience."

Quote from: Lord T Hawkeye on March 23, 2015, 09:46:51 PM
On a youtube thread, I asked the question "Why do we get handwaved as conspiracy theorists yet patriarchy theory gets a pass?"

Well, this gentleman took issue with that and simply accused me of having no idea what patriarchy theory is.

I responded with the good old Ayn Rand quote "They'll always tell you what it isn't, never what it is."

So I got this...

Quote
Patriarchy is a concept that originates in feminist theory derived from ideas of hegemony outlined by Antonio Gramsci. In short Gramsci wrote of the larger body of social constructs that enforce the values of the ruling class on the rest of society. These are not necessarily things that people do to consciously further those thoughts, often disguised as assumptions and "common knowledge".

Feminist theory uses the term "Patriarchy" to discuss those aspects of hegemony which relate specifically to the enforcement of a gender-based hierarchy. As stated above, there is no real physical "embodiment" of these ideas, that is to say no cackling council of men yelling "BEAT WOMEN! CRUSH THEIR SPIRITS! AAAH HA HA HA HA!" (at least as far as I know). There are, however, pervasive, destructive and ridiculous assumptions that define gender relations in our culture. From the myth of Adam and Eve to shaming young boys by telling them they do things "like a girl", these reinforce ideas of man's natural dominance and woman's natural submission. And if you're noticing that the example I used is an idea that hurts men too ("you __ like a girl"), then you're starting to get the point. In short, patriarchy doesn't just hurt women, it hurts men.

As bell hooks noted in Understanding Patriarchy, "Patriarchy is the single most life-threatening social disease assaulting the male body and spirit in our nation." These roles don't just put men in "good" positions, so to speak, they posit the man as the epitome of logic and reason. Not only does that deny female rationality, it creates an environment where men expressing their emotions is considered "wrong", "weak" and "effeminate". Thus men do things like shrug off going to the doctor when they should (to be tough), bottle up their emotions, causing trauma (and abusive behavior in some case), and generally go through life trying to deny their emotional personhood.

There. I told you what it is, and even tied it back into equality-centered gender studies so you can't say I'm just advocating for female supremacy or whatever location you're no doubt going to try and move the goalposts to now.

Any questions?

Where do you even start with this?  Bald assertions all over the place including presupposing the very existence of patriarchy at all without evidence.  Terminology so vague it makes the bible look like a dictionary.
Not to mention "hit like a girl" being cited as some kind of evidence?  Why does "acting like a dick" get a pass?  Cherry picking if I ever saw it.

Equality driven gender studies course?  Don't make me laugh!  Those studies are ANYTHING but equality driven.  Sky ain't orange just because you say it is.

I'll give you a question to ask.

"Yes:  Why does the above paranoid conspiracy theory get a pass?"

Failing to clean up my own mistakes since the early 80s.

Quote from: Altimadark on March 25, 2015, 01:30:05 PM
Donald Trump Redirects His 'Birther' Ire To Presidential Candidate Sen Ted Cruz

No, Donald, you don't win cluons for consistency.

BWAHAHAHA!! What an attention whore (or gigolo?)!
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Arthur Chu is definitely a complete mental case.

Quote from: AnCap Dave on March 25, 2015, 06:31:54 PM


Arthur Chu is definitely a complete mental case.

As are the two who responded. They do realize that the human race would go extinct, right?