Fail Quotes

[Altimadark]

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The video is not fail, though it's not especially good, either. As can be expected, I direct you to the comments, this time made by one Chris Cunningham, who keeps tripping over his own damage control:

Chris Cunningham
I don't have anything off hand, but I've seen some of the plans people got and with the new requirements for healthcare plans on the exchanges, they're getting more things covered for the same or lower in cost to them.

Altimadark
[In 2014, the PPACA decreed] health insurance must have broader coverage, and that employers must cover any employee working at least 30 hr/wk. So, as can be expected, my employer dropped my insurance and reduced my time to 29 hr/wk.

Actually, you can thank your employer, many employers are doing this to avoid paying for their employees healthcare.

Only if it can be proven that I still would have lost my health insurance et al without the PPACA. And didn't supporters say, "If you like your plan, you can keep it, period?" That certainly didn't happen.

[that] was under the mistaken impression that employers would actually update their existing plans to meet the requirements of the law

...when it came to light that people couldn't keep their plans, the politicians supporting it said you could only keep your policy if it didn't change. And by your own words, the PPACA was meant to force plans to change.

[Obamacare] said insurance companies could keep selling plans if they followed certain rules. The problem for insurers was that the "Obamacare" rules were strict

This supports my claim that I and many other people lost their health insurance due to the PPACA, not their employers.

[Altimadark]

So it seems this Halbig case is big news, though I can't help but think it's going to end with regular people getting screwed over somehow. Anyway!

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Another video, another roll of fail comments, this time by one Eero Haapala. Making it brief, here's the (current) end of the conversation:

Eero Haapala
When it comes to healthcare, government involvement works. Canada is an example.

Altimadark
Canada's excessive wait times and the government dismantling of mutual aid societies not withstanding, you yourself admitted corporatism is a problem in US healthcare, and you also agreed that corporatism requires government involvement.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Fuck Daily Kos!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/26/1316848/-What-not-to-say-to-black-people-when-you-are-Rand-Paul

[Travis Retriever]

Fuck Daily Kos!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/26/1316848/-What-not-to-say-to-black-people-when-you-are-Rand-Paul

This can't end well...

[R.E.H.W.R.]

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/if-you-are-pro-batman-you-are-anti-gun

[Dukect45]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/28/free-markets-fail-to-prosper-history-shows-that-government-is-key-to-true-growth/

When you break down the revolutionary technologies, the industry changing ones, they all have something in common – they relied on technologies not developed and supported by private enterprise, but those funded by the government. The iPhone, for example, used a touch screen, GPS, and even the processor, all funded by one nations government or another.

Yeah I call BS on this

[AnCap Dave]

[Travis Retriever]

https://plus.google.com/107601466108345042986/posts/KPghTL34Vrc
Every comment I've gotten as a reply to mine on this.  Good lord some people are dense.  Gotta love food snobbery.

[Travis Retriever]

From the comments of the libertarian brutalism video by Chris Cantwell.  The quoted terms are the fail... Yes, this was my reply to Jason.  Gotta love the hippy and busybody flavored snobbery...

+Jason [Professor Fennec]
" It doesn't really matter if rules are broken or not.  The terms of service are written so vaguely that they can pretty much boot anybody they want. "
Figures.  They're bogus vague rules to begin with.

"Besides, it is their property.  Facebook can change the rules at any time.  That's probably in the TOS as well.  They always stick that "Rules subject to change without notice" clause just to cover their buts."
Which leads me to question whether in a free society that would be a valid contract to begin with...And really, doesn't make them less of assholes even if it is their property in the same way a store owner can ban blacks from going into it.

"So, if they don't like Facebook, they should take their business someplace else that gives them the freedom they want.  Anything less is bratty first world problems entitlement."
You mean like the anti-brutalists and PC crowd who could have easily not been a part of the group to begin with?  Or the folks who whine about, "HUR DUR IF YOU WANT THIS OR THAT GO TO ANOTHER SITE! LOL! I DON"T WANT TO HAVE TO SEE THAT STUFF HERE!"

"The people who are actually getting off of their butts and doing something about state tyranny are developing open source software, cryptocurrencies and the deep web.  They are developing the tools that make the state obsolete. "
So those ways, not the brutalist way is the way to end the state? Yeah, I don't buy that.  Also, "make the state obsolete?"  Sorry, the state was never NOT obsolete to begin with.  And really, near as I can tell, it wasn't "meant to end the state" but more a private club away from the PC bullshit.

"Anybody who isn't supporting technologies and methods that make the state obsolete need to shut up and get out of the way. "
See my above reply regarding that.  Again, the state was never non-obsolete to begin with, so this doesn't make a lick of sense and just comes off as more snobbery elitist crap.

[Travis Retriever]

It's nutrition myths and momscience brought to you today by Travis!

Today's myth:
"White rice is completely stripped of nutrition! It's just pure sugar! Not like brown rice which is wholesome, whole grain and packed with stuff good for you!"

Fact:
Not so!
Rice, white, long-grain, regular, raw, unenriched: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5812/2
Rice, white, long-grain, regular, raw, enriched: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5711/2
Rice, brown, long-grain, raw: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5706/2
Especially when it has been enriched.  In fact, if you're a bodybuilder trying to bulk, or just someone wanting to gain weight for those reasons anyways, one could argue the brown rice is actually *worse* because the fiber makes it more satiating and thus harder to eat enough them to gain weight.  The reverse being true for those trying to loose weight (or who don't get enough fiber) natch.  As Alan Aragon and Armi Legge demonstrated:
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
What food(s) are healthy/unhealthy for one person is NOT always going to be healthy/unhealthy for another.  People are different, with different needs, preferences, strength of will and tolerances, and trying to fit everyone into some preconceived notion of a "health/clean/etc" diet is counterproductive at best.  It's like Jim Sterling said with regards to video games--you don't look for the perfect "Sauce" you look for the perfect "Sauces"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irZ-159xsZY
Same idea here.

Also, look at the nutritional information. There is not a single gram of sugar in the white rice--while ironically there is in the brown rice.
"BUT DOCTOR OZ SAID IT ALL JUST TURNS TO SUGAR IN YOU!" Yes.  ALL carbs do that, regardless of type or composition.  While it *is* true that the brown rice has a slightly lower GI, Menno proved in his "Is a Carb a Carb?" article, unless you're already unhealthy (obese, sedentary, not watching what you eat), then the GI/sugar/starch/etc amounts are 100% irrelevant to your health.  And even then, the only thing it changed was a larger decrease in LDL cholesterol in those on the weight loss diets in the lower GI carb group.  Not even glucose and insulin metabolism were effected.
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html

Myth/Assertion:  "Medium grain rice is much higher quality (and more expensive) than long grain rice!"

Fact:
How?  Taste? That's completely subjective.  Nutrition?
Bullshit.  Again, the two figures:
Rice, brown, medium-grain, cooked:  http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5710/2
Rice, brown, long-grain, cooked:  http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5707/2
If anything, the long grain can be said to be better, if only in terms of cost efficiency.

[dallen68]

It's nutrition myths and momscience brought to you today by Travis!

Today's myth:
"White rice is completely stripped of nutrition! It's just pure sugar! Not like brown rice which is wholesome, whole grain and packed with stuff good for you!"

Fact:
Not so!
Rice, white, long-grain, regular, raw, unenriched: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5812/2
Rice, white, long-grain, regular, raw, enriched: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5711/2
Rice, brown, long-grain, raw: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5706/2
Especially when it has been enriched.  In fact, if you're a bodybuilder trying to bulk, or just someone wanting to gain weight for those reasons anyways, one could argue the brown rice is actually *worse* because the fiber makes it more satiating and thus harder to eat enough them to gain weight.  The reverse being true for those trying to loose weight (or who don't get enough fiber) natch.  As Alan Aragon and Armi Legge demonstrated:
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/
http://evidencemag.com/clean-eating/
What food(s) are healthy/unhealthy for one person is NOT always going to be healthy/unhealthy for another.  People are different, with different needs, preferences, strength of will and tolerances, and trying to fit everyone into some preconceived notion of a "health/clean/etc" diet is counterproductive at best.  It's like Jim Sterling said with regards to video games--you don't look for the perfect "Sauce" you look for the perfect "Sauces"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irZ-159xsZY
Same idea here.

Also, look at the nutritional information. There is not a single gram of sugar in the white rice--while ironically there is in the brown rice.
"BUT DOCTOR OZ SAID IT ALL JUST TURNS TO SUGAR IN YOU!" Yes.  ALL carbs do that, regardless of type or composition.  While it *is* true that the brown rice has a slightly lower GI, Menno proved in his "Is a Carb a Carb?" article, unless you're already unhealthy (obese, sedentary, not watching what you eat), then the GI/sugar/starch/etc amounts are 100% irrelevant to your health.  And even then, the only thing it changed was a larger decrease in LDL cholesterol in those on the weight loss diets in the lower GI carb group.  Not even glucose and insulin metabolism were effected.
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html

Myth/Assertion:  "Medium grain rice is much higher quality (and more expensive) than long grain rice!"

Fact:
How?  Taste? That's completely subjective.  Nutrition?
Bullshit.  Again, the two figures:
Rice, brown, medium-grain, cooked:  http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5710/2
Rice, brown, long-grain, cooked:  http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5707/2
If anything, the long grain can be said to be better, if only in terms of cost efficiency.

Uh, yeah. There's always been a certain segment of the population that always thinks that because "something" is a common household food (bonus points if it's regularly consumed by those who have a lower income than the "judges"); it's automatically bad for you. CIP: The current bullshit about HFCS... Okay, 30 years ago we stopped using sugar because...(drum roll) EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS. Now, everybody's switching back to sugar. Please make up your damn mind. (The do-gooders, not Travis)

[Travis Retriever]

https://plus.google.com/103985275484915334835/posts/2DJHEsYHXUD
A few too many posters here...

[Travis Retriever]

https://plus.google.com/107601466108345042986/posts/KPghTL34Vrc
Every comment I've gotten as a reply to mine on this.  Good lord some people are dense.  Gotta love food snobbery.

And +Lucas Howes flat out lying about my posts.  /sigh
So he bitches about me and others arguing about an ice cream video...while he participates.  And he trolled me.  Blah. This is what happens when you post late at night without sleep. But yeah, for the bigoted comments "HUR DUR YOU AUTIST!" etc he gets muted, blocked, and reported.  Bigoted douche.

Aside from the known sexual reputation the fandom has, crap like this from folks like Lucas Howes, along with furs like Fennec's fog and sophistry (and him actually associating with that PoS) is why I didn't want to come out of the closet on this forum as a furry.  It seems that the worst, most venom filled, most bigoted trolls (in my 8 years of fandom experience) tend to be furries trying to "teach other furs a lesson." or some other crap.  And of course he'd be a dragon...in my year of experience as a part of the fandom, those guys come in two different varieties--either the sweetest, nicest people you'll ever meet.  Or the meanest, nastiest, and arrogant douches ever (as opposed to horse furs, of which, I've yet to meet a nice one...). Like, I'm talking on par with the ethical vegans and SJWs here.

But I digress...
When these people are consistent and actually start calling out the organic food, the cage free/'cruelty free', non-GMO and other scams and examples of what I call Gourmet Bling (much love to Cracked.com for that phrase), I them more seriously. Until then, I'll take them about as seriously as a morbidly obese man selling a diet book.  Of course it's always the generic, cheapo brands/foods they go after (as Dallen mentioned ).  Never the fancy hoity toity crap like Spanish Souffle (1/4+ a stick of butter in every serving).
Folks, if you're gonna play the "WAH THAT'S DISGUSTING AND BAD AND SHOULDN'T BE EATEN!" moral outrage card, go all the way, or go home.  This selective fake indignation of theirs is complete bogosity.

[AnCap Dave]

[R.E.H.W.R.]

*Sigh*
Why is it that Occupy Democrats keeps getting on here?