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Quote from: MrBogosity on July 09, 2014, 10:29:28 AM
[Quoting Fennec, not Travis]

My belief (and, if I understand it correctly, yours and Hawkeye's) would more closely be considered compatabilist (an option he seems to be ignoring). The whole idea of coming up with a scientific model is so we can overlay it on a part of the universe and use it to explain what's going on and make predictions about it. Free will absolutely works as such a model, even if what's going on is technically something else.

This reminds me of the people who get all uppity about there being no such thing as centrifugal force. Yes, the "force" behind it is just inertia, but when you're trying to resolve physical equations in a rotating reference frame you HAVE to come up with a centrifugal component!

I think the whole determinism argument is self-defeating anyway. Should we punish someone for a crime when he doesn't have free will? Well, if we do punish him, that wasn't OUR choice, because WE don't have free will! The whole concept, as far as I can see, is completely useless.

Frankly, reading this, The most Fennec could get away with is occasionalism, rather than determinism. in that event, people have freedom of intention (if not total freedom of will), actual execution/manifestation/etc are controlled externally (usually by a god--doesn't have to be, but it usually is). this agent would act in a matter that appears deterministic, and may even be rationalistic, but is not.

but yeah, this is a waste of time arguing over.
Meh

http://comments.deviantart.com/1/262776938/3523195833

I swear to Celestia this troll is incorrigible. His two main arguments are "No! You are wrong!" and "Google it!"


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 10, 2014, 12:13:18 AM
http://comments.deviantart.com/1/262776938/3523195833

I swear to Celestia this troll is incorrigible. His two main arguments are "No! You are wrong!" and "Google it!"
With a name like "SatanicSocialist" he might as well have called himself, "PayAttentionToMe!" or "IDoThisJustToPissOffMyParents"
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

Quote from: Travis Retriever on July 10, 2014, 12:43:40 AM
With a name like "SatanicSocialist" he might as well have called himself, "PayAttentionToMe!" or "IDoThisJustToPissOffMyParents"

heh, frankly his handle has great lulz value: it's like saying "ArabicspeakingPalestinian" or "MittRomneyisamormon" or "dogsarewolves" or "assholeUSpresident" or "bluntGerman" or even 'AtheistSwede".
Meh


Considering our declawed cat was feral for a year before she adopted us, This is a damn insult to both.
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

Quote from: AnCapBrony on July 09, 2014, 11:07:04 PM
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Bout time he had another one of these

I'm not understanding why you put this in Fail Quotes, though.

Quote from: evensgrey on July 10, 2014, 09:14:50 AM
I'm not understanding why you put this in Fail Quotes, though.

I meant to put this in fav quotes xD
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Quote from: AnCapBrony on July 10, 2014, 12:01:26 PM
I meant to put this in fav quotes xD
S'okay.  It happens to all of us at some point.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537



My response in r/politicalhumor:

Sounds like a joke that Kim Jong Un would tell his kids. Rolls eyes.

For the record, libertarians are not against traffic laws or any laws for that matter. What we oppose are laws and rules and regulations that do more harm than good. The fact that the majority of laws in this country fall under that category--from laws prohibiting people from smoking a plant or drinking raw milk, to laws prohibiting children from opening lemonade stands or food trucks from operating near restaurants--gives the illusion that we oppose all laws. The law should not prevent you from doing anything unless your actions may hurt someone else. That's not really a libertarian position. That's simply common sense.

I know this comment is going to fall on deaf ears and be downvoted because people in this subreddit only want to address strawman arguments than actual arguments, which really shows who the real children are.


No Sovereign but God. No King but Jesus. No Princess but Celestia.

Quote from: BlameThe1st on July 10, 2014, 03:17:05 PM


My response in r/politicalhumor:

Sounds like a joke that Kim Jong Un would tell his kids. Rolls eyes.

For the record, libertarians are not against traffic laws or any laws for that matter. What we oppose are laws and rules and regulations that do more harm than good. The fact that the majority of laws in this country fall under that category--from laws prohibiting people from smoking a plant or drinking raw milk, to laws prohibiting children from opening lemonade stands or food trucks from operating near restaurants--gives the illusion that we oppose all laws. The law should not prevent you from doing anything unless your actions may hurt someone else. That's not really a libertarian position. That's simply common sense.

I know this comment is going to fall on deaf ears and be downvoted because people in this subreddit only want to address strawman arguments than actual arguments, which really shows who the real children are.
Child traumatizing and bullying--teh ebil when religious do it for their dogma, but teh awesome when statists do it for their agenda and dogma...
Also, he does know that libertarianism isn't about rules or whatever--hell, even dictionary.com will tell you that anarchy = without rulers; NOT without rules.  Big difference.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

"The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be."
Lao Tzu

July 11, 2014, 01:21:57 AM #6251 Last Edit: July 11, 2014, 01:20:45 PM by AnCapBrony
Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on July 11, 2014, 12:56:47 AM


What a coincidence! I don't like living in a country with stupid people either :T
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Quote from: R.E.H.W.R. on July 11, 2014, 12:56:47 AM


well, that's funny Mr. Green. See, from living in this country 7 years, and it having more public schools than Kuwait (and better funded ones), I could have sworn the country is already overflowing with stupid people.

actually, let me add to that: any group of people processed through public schools tends to overflow with stupid individuals.
Meh

Quote from: Ibrahim90 on July 11, 2014, 03:12:32 AM
well, that's funny Mr. Green. See, from living in this country 7 years, and it having more public schools than Kuwait (and better funded ones), I could have sworn the country is already overflowing with stupid people.

actually, let me add to that: any group of people processed through public schools tends to overflow with stupid individuals.
"We need more government education!"
"Why?"
"We're a country of stupid people!"
"Who is in charge of the education?"
"The government!"
Sometimes, it really is that simple, people.
"When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—'No. You move.'"
-Captain America, Amazing Spider-Man 537

http://phys.org/news/2014-07-declassify-dinosaurs-great-great-grandparents-birds.html

For fuck's sake! When are the BANDits going to quit it? And of course all the "science" reporting outlets are gobbling this shit up without mentioning that the authors are part of a fringe group notorious for doing bad research.