Fail Quotes

[MrBogosity]

You know, maybe a better use of your time and ideas is to stop thinking of one group as better or worse than another and to start thinking as individuals.

I just can't stop thinking of how much it's changed in my lifetime. When I was growing up, it was "Women's Lib," which was excellently summarized in a Doctor Who episode as "We women don't let men push us around!" It was about empowerment, about women standing on their own two feet and not taking it anymore. They did sit-ins and other forms of peaceful protest. Some of them, taking the cue from Gandhi, even braved jail time to point out sexism in public policy.

Somewhere along the line, "Women's lib" became "feminism." I don't know how it's related, but it was around that time that it stopped being about the empowerment of women and started being about how women are helpless, oppressed victims who need recompense.

"Women's lib" was "We don't need men because we're just as capable as them." "Feminism" is "We need men to give us stuff because we're victims."

[Travis Retriever]

I just can't stop thinking of how much it's changed in my lifetime. When I was growing up, it was "Women's Lib," which was excellently summarized in a Doctor Who episode as "We women don't let men push us around!" It was about empowerment, about women standing on their own two feet and not taking it anymore. They did sit-ins and other forms of peaceful protest. Some of them, taking the cue from Gandhi, even braved jail time to point out sexism in public policy.

Somewhere along the line, "Women's lib" became "feminism." I don't know how it's related, but it was around that time that it stopped being about the empowerment of women and started being about how women are helpless, oppressed victims who need recompense.

"Women's lib" was "We don't need men because we're just as capable as them." "Feminism" is "We need men to give us stuff because we're victims."

(emphasis added by me)
While ironically still calling themselves *better* than men. wtf?

[AnCap Dave]

I hate this fucking picture. This has nothing to do with "being old school" and everything to do with not being a dick.

We had punks when we were kids, our parents had punks when they were kids, our grandparents had punks when they were kids and even the dinosaurs had punks when they were kids.

It only seems worse now because it's no longer your generation.

[MrBogosity]

[img]We had punks when we were kids, our parents had punks when they were kids, our grandparents had punks when they were kids and even the dinosaurs had punks when they were kids.

Well, Stegosauruses DID have Mohawks...

It only seems worse now because it's no longer your generation.

It always seems worse when it's the Not We. Generation gaps can be as bad as class or racial divides.

[Travis Retriever]

Well, Stegosauruses DID have Mohawks...

LOL!

It always seems worse when it's the Not We. Generation gaps can be as bad as class or racial divides.

And gender divides, given some of the insanely bigoted things many feminists seem to say and advocate...

[Ibrahim90]

Well, Stegosauruses DID have Mohawks...

the inevitable reply: and God struck them down with mass extinctions, so that virtually no stegosaurs survived the end of the Jurassic. May it be a lesson for all Punk lovers and Emo ravers

(OK, seriously though: the Stegosauridae were totally crushed by the end-Jurassic extinction event: perhaps one or two species continue past the boundary, but not for long).

the whole thing reminds me of what Dad had to say on the matter of generations (not fail--win in fact):

when I was young, I didn't listen to what my father told me. Now that I'm a father, and have a son who is like me, I realize he was right, but now my  son isn't listening to me.

in case you're wondering, he's referring to my brother, not me. basically: the story always repeats itself. it never really changes.

[MrBogosity]

(OK, seriously though: the Stegosauridae were totally crushed by the end-Jurassic extinction event: perhaps one or two species continue past the boundary, but not for long).

Cretaceous, actually. The Cretaceous period followed the Jurassic and was the last period of the Mesozoic. The boundary is called the K-Pg (Cretaceous-Paleogene) event, formerly known as the K-T (Cretaceous-Tertiary).

[Ibrahim90]

Cretaceous, actually. The Cretaceous period followed the Jurassic and was the last period of the Mesozoic. The boundary is called the K-Pg (Cretaceous-Paleogene) event, formerly known as the K-T (Cretaceous-Tertiary).

no--it is the Jurassic: that was not a typo. the end Jurassic event is a separate event from the end cretaceous--and much less well known to the public (and much less severe: it is not one of the 5 big mass-extinctions: End Ordovician, End Devonian, End Permian (the worst of them), End Triassic, and End Cretaceous (or K-Pg boundary). if you consider what is going on today a major mass extinction event (I don't--too early to tell), then it would be six.

The Jurassic also had an extinction event of similar size at the end of the Pliensbachian and into the Toarcian stages, about 30 million years earlier.

[MrBogosity]

I stand corrected, then.

[tnu]

Can somebody please put this tired argument I am so sicko f debating ancoms and them coming u p with the bogus argument that "Homesteading/labor theory of property is invalid because shitting on something or peeing/pouring kool aid in the ocean doesn't makeit mine."

[MrBogosity]

Can somebody please put this tired argument I am so sicko f debating ancoms and them coming u p with the bogus argument that "Homesteading/labor theory of property is invalid because shitting on something or peeing/pouring kool aid in the ocean doesn't makeit mine."

I can't see the link, but if they can't tell the difference between homesteading and a dog peeing on a tree then I'm not sure there's any getting through to them.

[dallen68]

Can somebody please put this tired argument I am so sicko f debating ancoms and them coming u p with the bogus argument that "Homesteading/labor theory of property is invalid because shitting on something or peeing/pouring kool aid in the ocean doesn't makeit mine."

I agree with Shane on this one, even if we leave off the dog reference. Homesteading generally requires a home to be built, and for the person(s) claiming the property to be domiciled there for some substantial amount of time; so just casually walking by, with or without body functions, isn't going to do it.

Can you homestead on the ocean or other body of water? I guess it's theoretically possible, but what would be considered yours would be the pier/land/dock that your houseboat is regularly anchored at, not the water.

[Travis Retriever]

Can somebody please put this tired argument I am so sicko f debating ancoms and them coming u p with the bogus argument that "Homesteading/labor theory of property is invalid because shitting on something or peeing/pouring kool aid in the ocean doesn't makeit mine."

Adding to Shane's post, I find it a bit...odd that he talks about how property/homesteading/etc is invalid...using his property--a computer..just..wtf?

Also, I even tried entering in the link myself, and messing with it and it still didn't work.

[MrBogosity]

Adding to Shane's post, I find it a bit...odd that he talks about how property/homesteading/etc is invalid...using his property--a computer..just..wtf?

They differentiate between "personal property" and "private property." It's private property they're against, not personal property. As near as I can figure, "personal property" is defined as "stuff I want to keep."

[Travis Retriever]

They differentiate between "personal property" and "private property." It's private property they're against, not personal property. As near as I can figure, "personal property" is defined as "stuff I want to keep."

AKA, the "BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT!" excuse, natch.