Fail Quotes

[R.E.H.W.R.]

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/doctor-dont-adhd-one/
any fail in this?

[MrBogosity]

Maybe there's overdiagnosis, maybe some physicians are too quick to prescribe medication, but there is an actual effect with ADHD. There are just too many predictors. People with ADHD correlate with lower overall brain size, a proportionally smaller prefrontal cortex, overstimulation of the frontal lobe, and many other factors. Also, stimulants restore the brain stimulation to more normal levels.

It may be overblown, but there's a there there.

[Travis Retriever]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-stupidest-defenses-against-accusations-sexism/

[MrBogosity]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-8-stupidest-defenses-against-accusations-sexism/

Um, am I right? Did they start right off by saying responding by using the other person's sexual life is bad and then spend pretty much the rest of the article impugning the sexual experience of those they were trying to refute?

[Travis Retriever]

Um, am I right? Did they start right off by saying responding by using the other person's sexual life is bad and then spend pretty much the rest of the article impugning the sexual experience of those they were trying to refute?

Because sex/fat/whatever shaming is bad; unless it's done to a man by Luke's logic.  He's as bad (if not worse) than David Wong in my experience.

[tnu]

Yeah, the thing is - capitalists don't allow for unions and do everything in their power to get rid of and subvert them, because that's what the market demands. Strong labor unions and collectives raise the cost of labor for everyone and that cuts into capitalist bottom lines. They'll use The State to crush worker owned businesses and co-operatives because that's what they've always done. If they have a privatized State it might even be easier.

You AnCaps are always saying that you'd be cool with an Anarchist society as neighbors - and that's a nice sentiment but it's impossible.

Capitalism does NOT allow for competing systems: it attacks and destroys them, first via subversion and when that fails, it does it via War. Choice of individual capitalists is not a factor because Capitalism demands infinite production and must perpetually open new markets.

So, if another society has different ideas, capitalists will try to change those ideas - when that fails, it will try to subvert them, and when that fails it will become imperialistic and attack. It has always done this because those societies are too valuable to remain closed.

It did this with China, It did it with Chile and Iran. It also did it to the Zapatistas.

War is a necessary part of capitalism, and if you think this will be solved by privatizing the State you're out of your mind.

[Travis Retriever]

"Yeah, the thing is - capitalists don't allow for unions and do everything in their power to get rid of and subvert them, because that's what the market demands."

Blatantly false.  OP doesn't know that unions were originally a free market creation and thing before government got involved with them.

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Maybe there's overdiagnosis, maybe some physicians are too quick to prescribe medication, but there is an actual effect with ADHD. There are just too many predictors. People with ADHD correlate with lower overall brain size, a proportionally smaller prefrontal cortex, overstimulation of the frontal lobe, and many other factors. Also, stimulants restore the brain stimulation to more normal levels.

It may be overblown, but there's a there there.

Well, looking up those explain alot of my social issues.

[FSBlueApocalypse]

[R.E.H.W.R.]

Just Mila Kunis as the Wicked Witch of the West.


Are they fucking serious?

[tnu]

1) Unionization is a tactic that was born specifically because of capitalist predation.

2) Free Market /= Capitalism.

3) If you defy the city council the response will vary, but I guarantee it will be nothing like defying a police officer.

4) It is not appropriate to compare Stalinism to say, Anarcho-Syndicalism or even communism. The Economy of the Soviet Union wasn't communist, or really even socialist in the strictest sense - it was State Capitalist. So honestly what you're advocating is closer to Stalinism, in both theory and practice than what anarchists are trying to do.

Lenninism is ostensibly about bringing about socialism and eventually communism, but we'll really never know of that was possible since the Soviet Union was opposed subverted and eventually collapsed.

It's important to understand that Leninism and it's derivations were/are a deeply conservative version of Leftist ideology of both State and Non-State varieties. Thus, while their goal is supposedly the same their tactics are completely different and leave much to be desired.

You, ancaps and other assorted versions of Libertarianism HAVE no tactics - you're all empty theory, which again - is more evidence that the whole ideology is a farce intended for no other reason than the creation of propaganda.

Libertarianism isn't SUPPOSED to be practiced, because all it argues for is the total sovereignty of property rights and this rule for and by Property Owners - therefore what you're going to get, if it were ever practiced is simply a more severe version of Liberalism: exactly the same system we have now, just with millionaires and billionaires getting even more control than they otherwise would.

So yes, what you argue for is Capitalism, and what we have now is capitalism in practice and in theory.

The Soviet Union was ALSO Capitalist economically, ostensibly with the goal of transitioning to Socialism, and eventually Communism.

Anarchism, both in theory and practice is something entirely different, as is communism.

And you'd know this if you spent any time reading anything but LOLbertarian propaganda.

[Dallas Wildman]

This comes from a guy who's ostensibly libertarian (even critical of the wars in the Middle East).  But this quote I just read is just hilarious:

Meanwhile country, after country, after country falls into civil strife and economic recession. Multitudes of biological weapons are at the zenith of their lethality, especially with antibiotics waning in effectiveness and are placed in literal war zone front lines like Damascus with religious zealots trying to reach them.

I wouldn't be so sure that everything is so honky-dory. This is how WW2 started, before nukes were invented. The United States and its allies have major enemies, enemies that have planned these moves for hundreds of years and are currently moving their chess pieces. Even if we are war weary, they are not. Only the dead have seen the end of war.

Dude... seriously... put down the Tom Clancy novels.

[Travis Retriever]

"Though I will say, there are always technicalities to every rule. for example, they have proven that if you are eating like an anorexic pidgeon then your body will go into 'hibernation mode', where it will attempt to store all the possible fat and energy it can, and using as little as it can in every day use. Hence why you should always eat as close to possible the recommended dietary intake for your energy needs, otherwise you wont loose anything. Ive been told this from several professional sources [doctors, chiropractors, dietary professionals, etc] so its not a defiance of physics but a fact of science."--Aldark here:  http://travis-retriever.deviantart.com/journal/Lost-23-pounds-side-effects-and-future-goals-437451121#comments

My response:  "'[T]here are always technicalities to every rule.'  Including that rule? And nope, sorry, it really is that simple.  The only reasons that might be the case at all would be:  1) You might become a tad less energetic and therefore move around less, thus burning overall fewer Calories.  2) Food has a thermic effect (especially protein) so when you are, say, fasting, you won't burn as many Calories because it takes energy (Calories) to digest/transport/store the nutrients in food.  Appeal to authority is not an argument.  The Calorie burning calculators I've seen pretty much just use your weight, height, sex, age and activity level to determine the amount of Calories you burn a day, because absent evidence otherwise, it's all that's all that's relevant.  As I said, your body cannot violate the laws of physics just to spite you.

Would it kill him to link me to a controlled, long term, and well designed study that supposedly "proves" this?  Like I always say folks, your body cannot violate the laws of physics just to spite you.  Stop making excuses and learn to eat less and exercise more; and stop enabling those who don't with this kind of bullshit, damnit!

"We'll have to disagree there then. Im afraid I trust my doctor more then some online calculator. lol"--Aldark in response to my comment

*facepalm*

My (hopefully final) response to this pillock:  "And I trust basic math and the laws of physics more than some unnamed, unspecified doctor and rightly so.  I even ask my own nutritionist to back her claims up with studies.

Finally:  http://v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies/AgreeToDisagree"

[Travis Retriever]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-manly-things-that-are-going-away-forever/

How much fail can you see in this?  I facepalmed at the red meat one and stopped reading at the first sentence.  Wong, the only reason those feed lots via feeding cows corn or whatever are so prevalent is because of government subsidies of corn and other such farmers and of the meat industry.  A free market would take care of that, and probably the rest as well, you beta, white-knighting, misdandric fucktard.  It leads me to believe the rest (e.g. the ad hominems he opens up with too) are just as poorly thought out.  There's a reason why Wong has more appearances in this thread than the rest of the cracked.com team combined!

[Travis Retriever]

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_817_23-outrageous-marketing-lies-you-see-every-day/?view=article

Okay, let's say every single one of those is 100% accurate or even worse than stated.  We can still win by pointing out the fact that:
Is it not government's job to make sure shit like that doesn't happen?  How is more government going to solve the problem?  It's like Hawkeye's security guard example.  If you hire a security guard to watch your store at night and he not only doesn't stop, but actively *helps* the people robbing it (while robbing it himself).  What, do you need to give him *more* power, or do you need to fire his ass, blacklist him and either find someone (read: a private firm in a free market) or if need be just do that shit yourself.  If you have to watch the watchman, what is the point of HAVING a watchman in the first place?