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[dallen68]

You or me and which post/point?  You bounced around with your points like I said.
Ah.  Okay, glad you actually cited your source this time. I thought you were talking about the articles from cracked.com.
Age, sex, and lean body mass: no arguments from me.  Thyroid?  Even the American Thyroid Association says that people with severe, SEVERE. Sorry, let me reiterate: SEVERE hypothyroidism can only attribute weight gain to 5-10 lbs. Everything else is diet and lack of exercise.
The rest of that actually CONFIRMS what I said.

1. The part about some people having a metabolism that makes them tend to be over/under/average weight. Age, sex, lean body mass, hereditary, and other things play a part in that-which doesn't mean the main thing of it *isn't* diet and exercise.

2. Originally, I was, but the conversation reached a point where I had to look up an actual source,(you know just in case you were right) that there was some reason to think might know what they were talking about, instead of talking out my ass with some other dude on the internet, both spouting opinions neither of us have any reason to think the other knows what they're talking about. In other words, I was fact checking after the fact. ;p

3. I'll take your word for the thyroid-I don't know enough about it to even venture an opinion.  (And the fact there's a pretty good reason to think the American Thyroid Association would know this.)

[Travis Retriever]

1. The part about some people having a metabolism that makes them tend to be over/under/average weight. Age, sex, lean body mass, hereditary, and other things play a part in that-which doesn't mean the main thing of it *isn't* diet and exercise.

It said those things are "influenced by" your age, sex, etc.  Not, "those are the main causes of obesity." So yes, the main thing IS diet and exercise.

[dallen68]

It said those things are "influenced by" your age, sex, etc.  Not, "those are the main causes of obesity." So yes, the main thing IS diet and exercise.  Nothing you've presented has challenged or even contradicted that fact.

Nothing I've presented was intended to challenge or contradict that fact. In fact, that's exactly what I meant.

[Travis Retriever]

Nothing I've presented was intended to challenge or contradict that fact. In fact, that's exactly what I meant.

*rereads your above post*
Shit.  I'm sorry I misread your post.  That was an honest mistake.

[dallen68]

*rereads your above post*
Shit.  I'm sorry I misread your post.  That was an honest mistake.

We all make them occasionally.

[dallen68]

Along those lines, AP reports a new study this morning that suggests the issue of obesity needs to be addressed way earlier (as in pre-kindergarten) than we have thought.

It doesn't really contradict any thing else we've already discussed though, although it does mention household income as a possible contributing factor. Evidently, the higher the families income, the more likely the children are to be fit.

Significantly, It says that good diet and exercise habits need to established early on, preferably before obesity sets in, because obesity is very difficult to overcome once you're there.

[Travis Retriever]

Along those lines, AP reports a new study this morning that suggests the issue of obesity needs to be addressed way earlier (as in pre-kindergarten) than we have thought.

It doesn't really contradict any thing else we've already discussed though, although it does mention household income as a possible contributing factor. Evidently, the higher the families income, the more likely the children are to be fit.

Significantly, It says that good diet and exercise habits need to established early on, preferably before obesity sets in, because obesity is very difficult to overcome once you're there.

*nod* Makes sense.  As that tends to apply to lots more than diet--best established early on.

[Travis Retriever]

http://www.cracked.com/article_19922_5-prejudices-that-video-games-cant-seem-to-get-over.html
/facepalms

[R.E.H.W.R.]

http://www.cracked.com/article_19922_5-prejudices-that-video-games-cant-seem-to-get-over.html
/facepalms

You gottan love morons who don't even play the games they whine about.

[dallen68]

You gottan love morons who don't even play the games they whine about.

I find I can't disagree with that article more. If anything, the Elder Scrolls series teaches, that while each race may be different, they each contribute to the Empire.

[tnu]

I find I can't disagree with that article more. If anything, the Elder Scrolls series teaches, that while each race may be different, they each contribute to the Empire.

Unless they're Stormcloaks, or Thalmor, or any other Antii-Imperial faction.

[dallen68]

Unless they're Stormcloaks, or Thalmor, or any other Antii-Imperial faction.

Well, yeah, but that isn't a function of race, it's a function of faction. Except maybe the Stormcloaks, who are, in fact, racist.

[MrBogosity]

It seems to me that a lot of these "races" are really separate species. Horses are stronger and faster than we are; is it racism to acknowledge this? Why is it any different with orcs or whatever?

[Travis Retriever]

@Shane, Dallen68, REHWR, tnu:  Not to mention the bit about relationships--in particular the no gay men item--they mention is either cherry picking or just full on lying (or both).  In Skyrim, you CAN be a guy and marry other guys, and the game will not punish you for it.  At all.

The only difference that sticks out to me is if you marry Lydia (first housecarl) who, for some reason, tends not to react badly if you become a werewolf or vampire, but even then, come on!  That's not punishing you for having a gay man character, it's rewarding you for marrying Lydia because those are behavioral bits exclusive to her.  Or Derkeethus (male Argonian) who is bugged and always runs back to his home in dark water crossing should you marry him no matter where you set your home.  But that's a bug, so it doesn't count; also, it might have been resolved by now.

Also, all of the folks you can marry of either gender tend to be folks who can fight/hold their own, so yeah.  Hell many of them can be recruited as followers to help you out with fights, carrying stuff, etc, with an emphasis on openness/flexibility on it being the player who decides whether they're a pack mule, or a fellow warrior, a stay at home mom/dad, etc.

WTB:  Someone who's actually *played* the games they're bitching about.  I don't get to bitch about movies I haven't seen before, so they don't get to bitch about games they've never played--much less completed--before.

[dallen68]

It seems to me that a lot of these "races" are really separate species. Horses are stronger and faster than we are; is it racism to acknowledge this? Why is it any different with orcs or whatever?

Yes. This is somewhat acknowledged in game. Humans are a species, elves are a species (that includes orcs), and the beast races are also species. (Although the term "species" doesn't exist in Tamerilic, and you have to find the specific book in game that explains the principle)